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Old 10-06-2012, 21:48   #49
Peregrino
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Dreadnought - Maybe you should try looking at Islam as a political system. It might help you see beyond your apparent antipathy to religion in general. As to your other argument, the greatest violence done in the name of Christianity was at the height of the Catholic Church's power - when it functioned as a de facto government. I'm not aware of any exhortations in the New Testament to violence in the name of Christ. According to Christian doctrine, the Old Testament which does call for violence was explicitely set aside with the creation of the New Testament (approximately 2000 years ago). (And until the founding of the modern state of Israel, the Jews haven't been strong enough as a culture to engage in Old Testament style violence since the Romans subjugated them.) Unlike the Quran which (in the later surahs) advocates "convert, enslave, or kill unbelievers".

BTW - You might want to expand your reading to include studying Sun Tzu - especially the "know your enemy" part. Your "transliteration" fails miserably. Though it does show you don't have the faintest idea what Islam is about.
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A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.

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