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Old 09-19-2012, 12:55   #13
Dozer523
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QP Dozer, we provide the most tolerant society . . .
Are you suggesting that it is somehow our responsibility to censor our own free speech in order to appease a specific group of people in other countries?
If so, I assert that even IF we did that, they would hate us just as much and would simply find some other 'thing' to be offended about and use that as justification for murder. Furthermore, what does that say about us? If we censor ourselves in this regard, are we not admitting to the world that our belief in our own rights is secondary to not offending muslims?
I am not suggesting, wait I am, no I don't think so . . . WELL! I don't beat my wife so I haven't stopped. (ie. When did you stop beating your wife?)
I am not suggesting we have a public, law-based policy of censorship. We HAVE Evolved! I am suggesting we as individuals take responsibility to censor ourselves; at least tell the truth, at least examine our motives especially if the motivation is merely to hurt someone else because here we can. The First Amendment arguement in this situation doesn't make it very far in a Principal's office and my Momma always said "Be nice or be quiet".

I'm not a big fan of appeasement but I'm on the side of politeness (especially if meanness gets people killed unnecessarily).
They might hate us less or the same or more. But, they would be in a less tenable moral position if -- as indiviuals -- we held to our morale fall-back position of "Do unto Others blah, blah, blah . . ." And as a society we might truely earn the High Road if we called hateful, mean, crap . . . well hateful mean crap instead of Sacred First Amendment Right.

Would someone misuse something to thier own ends. Tough one but . . I ll go with . . . abso-F-ing-lutely right they will. But then they are wrong. And, they don't have the "oh yeah?, well he . . . first" arguement.*

As to what do we "admit" I think all we admit is we are reasonable and responsible . . . that we have evolved.



*I swear to God nothing f's up my Solomon routine at home with the boys like that phrase

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