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Originally Posted by Oldrotorhead
No tin foil sir.
I don't see how this does not damage people that have not violated any law and have no intention of violating any law.
This is an example taken from the article from the newspaper.
"Such seizures are common in drug cases, which sometimes can ensnare people who have done nothing wrong. James Lieto found out about civil forfeiture the hard way when the FBI seized $392,000 from his business because the money was being carried by an armored-car firm he had hired that had fallen under a federal investigation. As the Wall Street Journal reported, Mr. Lieto was never accused of any crime, yet he spent thousands in legal fees to get his money back."
Due process would have saved this man unnecessary expense. What about the Fourth Amendment? Basically the are arresting your money and they you need a lawyer to get your money back. You must proof innocence rather them the government proving a crime has been committed.
Again I don't advocate crime just due process. We disagree and I will drop my argument at this point.
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You are quoting a news article that uses a possible abuse by the FBI not DEA or ATF which is what this thread is about. Next thing we will have an example using the NYPD or LAPD ot the FL State police........ Apples or Oranges.
Use examples of ATF abuse that is inline with the quoted Executive order that will prove your point or do not comment more on this.