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Old 07-18-2012, 19:41   #90
tonyz
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Originally Posted by Dusty View Post
Well, Obama has marxist dreams...
He may well have - I've always preferred the term statist because IMO it is nebulous enough - but accurate enough - to described observable conduct (both actions and omissions) by the man.

Without a beer summit - and I ain't getting one of those - it is very difficult to gauge the man's true belief system.

That is a big part of the problem this election cycle - the press has given this guy such a free pass that we are left with only his statements and his actions and little understanding of his core beliefs and influences.

Only now, are some of those things coming to light.

ETA: While some have reported on his questionable associations and secrecy - unfortunately, those folks are quickly labeled kooks - oddly enough, occasionally, by those who claim to hate labels. Thus, IMO, there has never been a proper vetting process of this man. Maybe folks will realize what is at stake this go round and push the matter come hell or high water. Unfortunately, I think we still need some in the MSM to take up the charge.
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