I hope that my apparently humorous approach to a serious topic translates reasonably well, as it would if we were actually using voices. I take myself with a grain of salt. I prefer an exchange of opinions with a smile. It was "the norm" in my fathers family, and worked very well for all of them.
And, I follow sandbox rule #4. If I don't respect somebody, I don't play with them.
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie
Wow a very articulate and poetic sentence. Goes to show if you are a good talker you can justify anything including the murder of 10 million innocent people.
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You're supposed to forgive the way my sentence is put together. I am phraseologically disadvantaged.
And, from my allegories, you should gather that I am saying "My hands aren't totally clean either, nor are the collective hands of any military force." Check your hamstrings. It's a long leap from there to "I approve".

Also, I wouldn't use the word "allegories" except that I'm running one of Sigaba's posts through a decoding program. That, and other strange/cool words are popping up.
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Originally Posted by hoot72
1. I understand where you're coming from but there is a norm in society and within that norm there is right and wrong.
2. in-large, in almost all 1st world nations, espcially those who suffered dramatic destruction and huge losses of life, the SS symbol means what it means and that is a direct link to the nazi party.
3. What the marine scout snipers did/have been doing, if it is true they have been doing it for the longest time is, morally, wrong.
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1. I have, during my lifetime, seen about half the norms change. Sometimes todays norm seems better, sometimes not. However, 50 years from now a lot of todays norms will be "obviously wrong".
2. See Chevy Camaro. Actually, if I painted on the old 1960's peace symbol, formed a group and we committed atrocities, is it a peace symbol, or a symbol of atrocities?
3. I don't see "morally wrong". I see "badass" in a way that could have been better stated. I watched young black marines on cable as they went through sniper school. I don't think they are Nazis. YMMV
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Originally Posted by Sigaba
Persons can contribute to a political sensibility in which a specific armed service is out of step with the values of the society it is tasked to protect.
If certain groups of warriors want to claim that it is their prerogative to take a postmodern approach to history in its selection of rituals, traditions, and symbols while averring that civilians are over reacting, that's their choice.
(And also, the logic that interested parties should not take notice or offense of how others interpret symbols undermines significantly the intellectual and political opposition to the current president and his supporters.
My $0.02.
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Sigaba,
I have only one disagreement with what you said here. I counted the $10 words separately, and I believe this is your $1,790.02 worth.
As for your other points, I can only respond "Huh?"