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Old 10-15-2011, 22:13   #28
Peregrino
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Originally Posted by goon175 View Post
How effective the current APFT is, is a whole different conversation in itself. I agree, just because you meet the minimum requirements on the APFT does not mean you can keep up in combat situations. But, I can guarantee that the soldiers who cannot pass a PT test, will not be able to keep up in combat either (or atleast the majority of them anyway). And if a guy has 10% body fat, he is in no way close to getting booted, as the Army allows males to have up to 24% body fat, and females up to 30%. Bottom line, if you cannot meet the bare minimum standards for the organization you voluntarily choose to be in, you should be first to get the boot when that organization is downsizing.
I know enough PT studs who can't motivate anyone to follow them across the street or find their ass with both hands, and conversely, enough solid Soldiers who don't meet body fat standards but can lead, to question the motivations of anyone who makes PT tests their number one criteria for eliminating Soldiers from the ranks.

I'm also curious about the General's definition of discipline. Is it parade ground spit and polish and blind obedience because of his exhalted status? How about mindless drones that shout "Sir, Yes Sir, three bags full" every time he farts? Reality is - yes, there are some problems, but we've also got a lot of very intelligent, combat experienced junior Soldiers (E6 - O3 types) who understand duty, leadership, and responsibility. To counter that we've got a fair percentage of current senior leadership that is NOT deserving of their respect. Maybe the General needs to quit bitching about the messenger and listen when somebody tells him he isn't wearing any clothes.

And the pundits wonder why it's so hard to convince some of the best and brightest to stay in the Service.
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