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Originally Posted by echoes
Sir,
Having just googled, "JOHN ELDREDGE, Wild at Heart," there seems to be a debate ongoing about his book and theories. My question is what in the world your above statement has to do with the topic at hand?
Am missing the relavancy of it, but I could be wrong? 
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I also questioned the Eldridge writing and the only part of the book I really took seriously was the quote from the book, as I have 4 sons and didn't want anyone teaching them to play "dolly".
I think the relavance is that men that do all the things above, invent games with violence etc. grow to become protectors from "wrong doers" (or grow the opposite way & use violence in a negative way).
I used the church example only from my experience in dealing with the way things are run in the church I attend. Every year I take the "confirmation class" to "Promisedland paintball" grounds for a one day "retreat". (Last year "Charlie Two" joined us, it was a blast!) There is a group of women that simply dispise the idea, and every year the pastor has to talk to them and remind them that, that is what boys do. they play "good guys n bad guys" etc. And every year they still pitch a fit.
If we allow those women that want things "toned down" to make the decision of:
"should we stop them from playing good guy/bad guy and make them play something not so masculine" or "lets not keep score, everybody wins!"
then we will not have any young men ready and willing to pick up a rifle and stand a post.
IIMO, that a good balance of both sides of the coin will do what 1stindoor posted from the article:
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Men who know how to deal out violence know that radical feminism’s tenets—that women and men are equal—are a lie. We know that women are not the same as men: not physically, mentally, or in terms of moral character.
Men who have fought know how difficult it is to stand against the crowd and that civilization is fragile and important. A man who has experienced violence knows that, at its core, civilization is an agreement between men to behave well. That agreement can be broken at any moment; it’s part of manhood to be ready when it is. Men who have been in fights know about something that is rarely spoken of without snickering these days: honor. Men who have been in fights know that, on some level, words are just words: At some point, words must be backed up by deeds.
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Which is why my kids have nerf guns, then bb guns and soon to own their own shotguns. They will have learned to use both their minds and their brains if I've done it correctly...
I'm reminded of a scene in the movie "Braveheart" where young William is "eye-balling" Uncle Argyle's sword, "First learn to use this(taps him on the forehead with his index finger), and then I'll teach you how to use this(hold up the sword)"
I certainly was not intending to offend anyone here...
