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Old 09-16-2004, 23:22   #31
MAB32
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I agree with what is being stated here as far as putting team(s) together to handle such a threat/takeover. While I don't agree with the idea or proposal to "miltarize" the Police here in this country, I, on the other hand, will never agree to have the military act as Law Enforcement and/or a SWAT Team in my little corner of the world. The military has no business in civllian affairs in this country unless the incident takes place on a base, fort, camp, or port.

TS, I bleed red blood and took an oath to defend the Constitution of this great nation just like you did. We have a wall in DC to prove it and new names get added every year because of that oath and for dying for dying for people who most of the time we don't even know. We are not perfect and neither are you when it comes to handling these types of attacks. 9/11 convinced us all of that. I agree we need better training and allot "shorter leash". We also need better equipment. Maybe down the road it will happen via grants, new laws, and/or directives from the State or Federal government. Unfortunately another incident may have to happen to get the ball rolling. Columbine will still be studied for years to come because of what happened there. Out of that came the "active shooter(s)" model for response. Although not a perfect way of doing things we are still going to have the first four officers to arrive on scene going in and confronting him/her/them. Suicide? Probably. But even in the best of situations "intel" about who, what, where, and how will be sketchy at best from students and teachers running past you crying and screaming hysterically. This is our training.

Bottom line is I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
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