[rdret1]

By the audio alone, I would agree that the officers were unprofessional. In NC, a CCW permit holder must state that they have the permit and where the fire arm is located upon contact with an officer. NC is also an "open carry" state. My personal SOP on encountering someone in these situations is to ask them to allow me to take control of the weapon until the end of the enounter. One gun (mine) is enough in a situation. I have never had anyone refuse to allow this and have done it numerous times. At the end of the encounter, I always give them the firearm back. If it is a SA, I give it to them with the magazine out and the slide locked back. If it is a revolver, the rounds are in one hand and the cylinder is out. I then allow them to leave the scene first, with instructions to wait until they are in another area to reload their firearm. This method has worked for me for the past 13 years.

My wife and I are both also CCW holders and she has been well rehearsed in what to say and do if she were ever to be stopped by an officer. I don't know about PA, but in NC, when an officer runs someone's license or registration in NCIC, the information cmes back whether that person has a NC CCW permit or not, so the officer knows if you have one before he ever comes up to your door.