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35NCO · 02-01-2011, 22:33

I see we are all in agreement on this one. This is very personal to me. A family friend of mine owns a big gun shop in PA. A few years ago so called “undercover agents” went into the gun store and bought a couple pistols. They were New York residents. Which in itself there is nothing illegal there. But, it turns out the agents work for the NYC police and since they were able to drive the guns back into the city, this was a crime in some way. The gun store owner got into a legal battle about it, but just ended up paying the fines. Obviously I left a lot of detail out of this story for the parties own protection. What gets me is I thought this was just some crazy isolated incident. The PA town is not far from NYC. I cannot believe Bloomberg has the nerve to just go to any state and do this! This is not even remotely legal in any aspect.

Now the whole “gunshow loophole” is completely ridiculous. I have been going to gun shows with my father since I was a little kid. Never in at least 15 years of going have I seen anyone ever sell a gun without paperwork. However, one important thing to note is that in some states, PA for example you can legally sell any long rifle person to person without paperwork. The state recommends a bill of sale, but that’s up to the buyer and seller. The only thing that is illegal to sell without a dealer is a pistol.

On the Reapers note about selling multiple guns at a show without paperwork I think in some states that could be legal. As long as they are long guns. I have never heard of a state where a pistol can be legally bought without paperwork and age requirements. For a person to do this, it would not be someone who does it on a regular basis. For example it might be a one time thing where someone moves, needs money and decides to sell off all their long arms in a day. I am just saying this in theory could be legal in some states. Remember though, I am not a lawyer in any manner. I am not recommending this. Do your own research and you will see what I am talking about.

So that’s both sides of it. Either way it is very upsetting. I just can not fathom how the BATFE lets Bloomberg continue to do this. He is just a mayor, he is not above the law, in any state, including his own.

02-01-2011, 22:33	#7
35NCO Guerrilla Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: CONUS Posts: 403	I see we are all in agreement on this one. This is very personal to me. A family friend of mine owns a big gun shop in PA. A few years ago so called “undercover agents” went into the gun store and bought a couple pistols. They were New York residents. Which in itself there is nothing illegal there. But, it turns out the agents work for the NYC police and since they were able to drive the guns back into the city, this was a crime in some way. The gun store owner got into a legal battle about it, but just ended up paying the fines. Obviously I left a lot of detail out of this story for the parties own protection. What gets me is I thought this was just some crazy isolated incident. The PA town is not far from NYC. I cannot believe Bloomberg has the nerve to just go to any state and do this! This is not even remotely legal in any aspect. Now the whole “gunshow loophole” is completely ridiculous. I have been going to gun shows with my father since I was a little kid. Never in at least 15 years of going have I seen anyone ever sell a gun without paperwork. However, one important thing to note is that in some states, PA for example you can legally sell any long rifle person to person without paperwork. The state recommends a bill of sale, but that’s up to the buyer and seller. The only thing that is illegal to sell without a dealer is a pistol. On the Reapers note about selling multiple guns at a show without paperwork I think in some states that could be legal. As long as they are long guns. I have never heard of a state where a pistol can be legally bought without paperwork and age requirements. For a person to do this, it would not be someone who does it on a regular basis. For example it might be a one time thing where someone moves, needs money and decides to sell off all their long arms in a day. I am just saying this in theory could be legal in some states. Remember though, I am not a lawyer in any manner. I am not recommending this. Do your own research and you will see what I am talking about. So that’s both sides of it. Either way it is very upsetting. I just can not fathom how the BATFE lets Bloomberg continue to do this. He is just a mayor, he is not above the law, in any state, including his own.
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