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Old 10-20-2010, 17:33   #15
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Originally Posted by GratefulCitizen View Post
John chapter 8 v 48-59

Particularly v 58: "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" (NIV)

The people to whom he said this subsequently attempted to stone him for his claim of divinity.
They knew what he was saying.

It is elsewhere, too.
I always felt Jesus was talking in the role of the Christos when making such statements, YMMV. I also recall Jesus speaking of the divinity of man in general, but again, I may be mistaken. I would love to see the original writings translated by an impartial source, too.

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The way my father related the idea:
You can teach a dog to bark once when you say "one", to bark twice when you say "two", etc.
You can't teach a dog calculus.

Much the same with comprehending His ways.
I'll learn what I can.
Trust that it will be sufficient to understand evidence which, in turn, affirms faith.
(how's that for a tautology...)
Well said.
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