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Old 05-21-2010, 06:41   #10
Defender968
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Originally Posted by JAGO View Post
Leozinho,

Nothing to imply - it is unusual for a Bureau agent to respond to a call on a military installation. Perhaps your experience is different/greater than mine?To me the facts (or lack thereof) is quite noteworthy. As you know, the MOU between DoJ and DoD is such that the military is responsible for all law enforcement activities on DoD installations. After the military sorts it all out - a determination is made that persons detained who are not subject to the UCMJ is then released to civilian Law Enf authorities. Even with the MOU, the Bureau still has jurisdiction for federal crimes on the installation, and rarely the Bureau can, and does come on installations with unique matters in which they inform the Law Enf desk (or a MCIO) that the Bureau has a warrant - and they serve it after such coordination.

Furthermore, as a taxpayer I can question the benefit of an FBI agent assigned to a uniformed security force, given the difference in mission. The liaison program is much different and usually involves something much more complicated.

I've been removed from it all for several years, but the issues of military LNOs to the Bureau as well as Bureau LNOs to certain military commands was/is clearly defined. I suspect the LNO position is to one of the unified/specified 4 star commands at MacDill? Again, things may have changed and FBI agents are assigned to MP desks on Army bases?

As I posited, the Agent could have been at the gate (perhaps) waiting for an official visitor, he could have been talking to a Security Force friend, or he could have been their with a "real world" scenario.

But given his role as an LNO it is highly unusual that he is responding to incidents or taking direct action on a military installation.

Drunk Vets on a motorcycle leaving a mliltary camp ground are the sort of things that (at least from 1970 - 1997) the Bureau agents I worked with were trained to avoid.

This is unusual. I suspect there is a story here beyond what the PAO is putting out. Either this Vet was a "person of interest" or they were expecting a higher forece protection level that evening - or perhaps, this Vet and the agent had met before?

v/r
phil
I would tend to concur with you JAGO that it is very unusual to have an FBI agent at the gate. My guess would be that this was a case where the agent was at the right place at the wrong time, had his badge on his belt along with his gun (as most agents do) and became involved either at his own decision or that of the Vet...time will tell but I'm sure there are many details about this that we're not privy too yet.

Also any federal crimes that occur on an AF Base are generally handled by OSI,.... on most normal bases at least in my experience. Now with that being said the things that are located at McDill make it a different beast altogether than a normal run of the mill AF base. At the run of the mill bases I've never seen an FBI agent on based at, all let alone actually attached to Security Forces.
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