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Sean · 05-08-2010, 18:35

I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest, I'm just discussing training. I wasn't saying that muscle plays no part in connective tissue injury, I was making the point that a muscle will not naturally get so strong so fast through weight training that it poses a threat to the connective tissue.

The numbers I gave were more in reference to training adaptation levels and appropriate loading to make efficient use of a trainee's time. A true novice trainee has an amazing capacity to rapidly increase the load, dependent on age, sex, and other factors. A healthy young adult or even adolescent male can indeed take a load up 10-20lbs. every workout in the squat and deadlift for at least 1-2 months, at a rate of 3 workouts a week, with adequate nutrition and rest for growth. After that, the gains taper off a bit as his capacity for improvement outpaces his capacity to recover, and his training adaptation inches closer to his genetic potential. A male with a back squat of 50lbs. for sets across is nowhere close to his genetic potential, and thus can handle 10lb. (20%) jumps for quite some time, given adequate food and rest. Likewise, a male with a back squat of 200lbs. for sets across also has a great deal of capacity for improvement, yet is closer to his genetic potential than the athlete working with 50lbs. Thus, he can still sustain 10lb. (5%) jumps, but for a shorter timespan than the athlete who started with a lighter weight.

Using myself as an example of the above:
NOV 12, 2009: Max back squat 325lbs. at bodyweight of 190lbs.
Followed a linear progression for about 2 months, from Nov. 20 to January 11,at a rate of 3 workouts a week, squatting every workout. I reset once to break a plateau, and was able to increase my weights for 3 sets of 5 reps by 10lbs. for about the first month, and 5lbs. after that. My starting weight was 275 for 3 sets of 5 reps.
JAN 15, 2010: Max back squat 445, at a bodyweight of 230lbs.
120 lbs. increase over the course of 20 workouts.
40 lb. increase in bodyweight.
Strength-bodyweight ratio: From 1.7% to 1.9%

05-08-2010, 18:35	#247
Sean Asset Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 18	I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest, I'm just discussing training. I wasn't saying that muscle plays no part in connective tissue injury, I was making the point that a muscle will not naturally get so strong so fast through weight training that it poses a threat to the connective tissue. The numbers I gave were more in reference to training adaptation levels and appropriate loading to make efficient use of a trainee's time. A true novice trainee has an amazing capacity to rapidly increase the load, dependent on age, sex, and other factors. A healthy young adult or even adolescent male can indeed take a load up 10-20lbs. every workout in the squat and deadlift for at least 1-2 months, at a rate of 3 workouts a week, with adequate nutrition and rest for growth. After that, the gains taper off a bit as his capacity for improvement outpaces his capacity to recover, and his training adaptation inches closer to his genetic potential. A male with a back squat of 50lbs. for sets across is nowhere close to his genetic potential, and thus can handle 10lb. (20%) jumps for quite some time, given adequate food and rest. Likewise, a male with a back squat of 200lbs. for sets across also has a great deal of capacity for improvement, yet is closer to his genetic potential than the athlete working with 50lbs. Thus, he can still sustain 10lb. (5%) jumps, but for a shorter timespan than the athlete who started with a lighter weight. Using myself as an example of the above: NOV 12, 2009: Max back squat 325lbs. at bodyweight of 190lbs. Followed a linear progression for about 2 months, from Nov. 20 to January 11,at a rate of 3 workouts a week, squatting every workout. I reset once to break a plateau, and was able to increase my weights for 3 sets of 5 reps by 10lbs. for about the first month, and 5lbs. after that. My starting weight was 275 for 3 sets of 5 reps. JAN 15, 2010: Max back squat 445, at a bodyweight of 230lbs. 120 lbs. increase over the course of 20 workouts. 40 lb. increase in bodyweight. Strength-bodyweight ratio: From 1.7% to 1.9%
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