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Old 03-18-2010, 19:26   #13
Sigaba
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AKV--

You're bringing the heat in this thread.
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I agree this is sticky, but shouldn't US interests should always be forefront in the minds of our leadership?
I'll see your rhetorical question and raise you.
  • To what extent should America's ideals inform our understanding of our interests?
  • Is a 'realist' approach to foreign policy consistent with our view of American exceptionalism?
  • (How does pressuring Turkey on this point impact its relations with Russia?)
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I saw a clip of a discussion between former national security advisers Brzezinski and Scowcroft. . . . .The Germans admitted and condemned Nazi evils and have moved on....
MOO, this characterization on the part of Brzezinski and Scowcroft is not quite so tidy historically or historiographically. The manifold debates over "Germans into Nazis" continue to this day.*

(Also, some of Germany's allies in NATO were less than pleased with its preference to avoid planning to defend the alliance's Baltic members in case of a Russian invasion <<LINK>>.)

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* Wolfram Wette, The Wehrmacht: History, Myth, Reality, trans. Deborah Lucas Schneider (ISBN-13 978-0674022133); Alan E. Steinweis, Kristallnacht 1938 (ISBN-13 9780674036239).
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