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**The Reaper** · 07-28-2004, 16:22

Adam:

You beat me to it.

Being forced to defend yourself is not the same as being MOS trained and employed as an infantryman (NOT Infantryperson. Ever).

A6:

If you were in the Army, you would be a veteran entitled to wear a combat patch and receive whatever awards your CoC felt you had earned. I suspect that as an AF member, the threshold would be somewhat lower for these awards.

What makes you think that flying around for a few hours every day in an aircraft or handling POWs and issuing citations puts you in the same category as a man who humps (and lives out of) a ruck, kills people with everything from a Carl Gustaf to his bare hands, and digs what could be his own grave every night? You are aware that casualties among infantrymen average about a dozen times higher than the other branches? You going to pick me up, toss me over your shoulder, and carry me to an aid station a mile or two away? You going to beat a man to death with an e-tool after you run out of ammo?

Being in a combat zone as a female entitles you to what? The same thing as every other combat vet.

I think that females do a fine job in support units. I do not want one in my deployed Infantry or SF unit.

Just my .02, YMMV.

TR

07-28-2004, 16:22	#4
The Reaper Quiet Professional Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Free Pineland Posts: 24,835	Adam: You beat me to it. Being forced to defend yourself is not the same as being MOS trained and employed as an infantryman (NOT Infantryperson. Ever). A6: If you were in the Army, you would be a veteran entitled to wear a combat patch and receive whatever awards your CoC felt you had earned. I suspect that as an AF member, the threshold would be somewhat lower for these awards. What makes you think that flying around for a few hours every day in an aircraft or handling POWs and issuing citations puts you in the same category as a man who humps (and lives out of) a ruck, kills people with everything from a Carl Gustaf to his bare hands, and digs what could be his own grave every night? You are aware that casualties among infantrymen average about a dozen times higher than the other branches? You going to pick me up, toss me over your shoulder, and carry me to an aid station a mile or two away? You going to beat a man to death with an e-tool after you run out of ammo? Being in a combat zone as a female entitles you to what? The same thing as every other combat vet. I think that females do a fine job in support units. I do not want one in my deployed Infantry or SF unit. Just my .02, YMMV. TR __________________ "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
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