None said there are not side effects to their use which increase exponentially when they are abused, not taken as directed or outside of their usefulness.
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...During the Q-course, a friend that I worked out with decided to do "just 1 cycle" ...his running went to crap...
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Again I think you are confusing the cause and effects. The effect being "his running went to crap" but the cause wasnt that he was taking a cycle. It was that his focus in training shifted away from cardio (running) so he could put on size. It is the inverse of someone wanting to get smaller so they spend more time on cardio and less time lifting heavy and in the end will give up some strength in the process...
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...As we sat in one of our 18b classes during that time...I'm going to fucking kill him." ...and it was clear he was raging...
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No arguments that it sounds as if he was raging. Generally speaking roid rage is more commonly an issue as the person is coming off cycle and isnt utilizing an anti-estrogen. The issue here is that during the cycle the body stops producing testosterone on its own and once off cycle it takes a while for the body to start producing test again. During this time estrogen in the body is at a higher than normal level and causes severe mood swings...roid-rage.
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Last year, a friend of mine buried his brother, a bodybuilder. Seems the brother had been buying steroids out of mexico. He became septic, and died of a super-infection...
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It wasnt the steroids that killed him but the infection which he contracted from stuff he bought from Mexico. Same thing could have happened if he was buying Viagra from Mexico.
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...Of course, everybody remembers the demise of Lyle Alzado...
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Whose death from brain cancer was not linked to the use of AAS says his doctors. There are quite a few people who would like everyone to believe otherwise though. Still there is no evidence linking the two together.
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...I realize there is a medical reason for anabolic steroids. Likewise, there is a medical reason for the existence of cocaine. Nobody argues the medical benefits, it is the abuse of the substances that is a problem...
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Apples and oranges... Topical anesthesia is the only real use today, medicinally, for Cocaine.
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...My observations, all of guys who used the steroids to get bigger, would lead to the opposite conclusion: that guys who take steroids(at least the old dynabol type)get big so quickly that they decrease their endurance abilities. Moreover, the side-effects which I have personally observed are horrible...
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Not everyone who takes AAS do so to get bigger.
Again, to make substantial gains in size endurance has to be sacrificed (meaning they stop or at the very least cut back significantly on cardio.) As a person puts on muscle mass/weight (the desired effect for these guys) it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain the same pace (running, biking, swimming, etc) as prior to the cycle because of the decrease in cardio. Again, this comes down to training goals, not the AAS's themselves as the cause of the degradation in endurance.
I know some guys back home (both LEO (yes police officers) and FF) who cycle on and off often. Most of them are more concerned with performance than size and who take them for the purposes listed in my earlier post. To add, a couple of them are endurance athletes...
Personally, I cycled for 4 years during high school (84-89) and one year in college to become stronger and faster...not bigger. I again cycled (under the direct supervision -and by prescription- of a sports med doc in Pinehurst, NC) while I was recovering from a shoulder injury in the SFQC. I havent had any side effects from them. Then again I never abused them, took them correctly, and utilized post-cycle therapy.
As with most things in life a person's opinions are often shaped by their experiences. It is obvious that we have had very different experiences...
As always, YMMV.
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Just so everyone is clear, AAS (Schedule III drug) are unlawful to possess without a prescription from a MD. It is a federal felony offense and is punishable by jail time. I am not condoning the use or possession of AAS without the express consent of a medical doctor for the treatment of an illness of injury...