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Then again I notice a big difference between kids today and what kids were like when I was growing up.
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My first years as a teacher often had me going home asking, "What the hell is WRONG with kids today?" I soon found out - nothing. I think it still holds true today. Kids today are JUST like we were when we were kids. I don't know about you, but I was far from a 'perfect angel' in school. I often went as far as I was allowed. If the "iron hand justice" came down upon me, or more often, one of my more brazen fellow students, we'd all back off a bit until some brave soul tried again.
There was a "line" of accepted behavior that society in general had laid down for we youngsters to "toe." That line is now, for the most part, gone. IF not gone, it is so obscured that kids don't know where the hell it is. They push, they whine, they do what kids do. IF you have expectations that are communicated and enforced - and you treat them fairly and humanely - MOST will suprise you with how much they act LIKE we think we acted.
Just my 2 cents worth from my huge teacher salary...