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Old 01-20-2010, 02:24   #39
Sigaba
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie View Post
When and where do you think the line should be drawn? I realize this is not a cut and dry answer per say, but where do you draw the line? When do we say enough is enough and get out? I am not trying to be a smaer ass or confrontational I just wonder how many lives (somilia etc) trillions of dollars and years we have to throw away before we say it is beyond saving?
Brush--

If the U.N. doesn't hold the line with Iran, I would think it would be time for an "agonizing reappraisal" (to paraphrase John Foster Dulles).

IMO, other benchmark events might include (but should not be limited to):
  • the revelation of another scandal involving the systematic misappropriation of funds or the sexual misconduct of UN workers.
  • making significant progress in all of the reform measures discussed here, but especially in those measures discussed here.
During the interval, I think we Americans should do exactly what we're doing on this thread--debating the issue, giving each other a exposure to different perspectives on the topic, providing each other opportunities for more thought and more research. This way, if it becomes time to have a public debate on the topic, those for and those against leaving the U.N. will have timely, articulate, well-rehearsed arguments that will resonate on both sides of the political aisle. Nothing will send a clearer message to the UN than a nonpartisan statement from the American people: "It isn't us, it is you that is the problem."

My $0.02.

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