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Originally Posted by FCWood
However, time will cause many to forget.
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I would agree with you here, but only if things get better or remain the same, with the current level of spending, and the 2nd and 3rd order effects of this type of Bill (I can't say this bill as I haven't been able to read it, I did read much of the first one but this one has changed) our healthcare system WILL deteriorate and that negative stimuli will continue to build until there is some sort of resolution, most likely by voting many Dims out.
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Originally Posted by FCWood
The Senate's makeup, given the current situations, will not change in Nov of '10. If the dems can get health care done soon then they will lose seats in the house, but might just survive with a slim majority.
Why? Because those that elected Obama still love him though maybe a little less. Those same voters are going to go back to the polls to keep dems in power if but barely.
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Your premise here is that all the same people who voted him in will all show up at the midterm elections, I would argue he has a very loyal following, but they are the minority of who got him elected. He got elected though a very clever marketing scheme which I don't think he will be able to repeat, not to mention the reality is if you look at the history of midterm elections there is simply not be the same turn out as for primary elections, the 2010 midterm will be no different, many of the folks that showed up and voted straight ticket to get the one and many Dims in office simply don't care enough about what's going on to actually turn out in 2010. Further much of his base is getting disillusioned because he's not making good on his most left promises, so they will not come out as strong as they did to get him elected, which means the center right nature of this country will likely win out and the Repubs will pick up some seats and hopefully restore
some balance.
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Originally Posted by FCWood
Unless the repubs decide to start giving alternate ideas they will continue being seen as "the party off no." Obama's goals may energize the repub base, but they will fail to secure a majority if they can't convince the moderates they have good legislation of their own.
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At this point, many "moderates" are getting buyer’s remorse, as shown by the presidents plummeting poll numbers, they're going to be looking for change again in 2010 as they bought into this change and it isn't panning out so well, I would bet they'll be shopping for more change in the future.
Ultimately there are many variables in this equation, and IMHO if they pass this healthcare bill it won't matter what happens in 2010, there will be no undoing it because there will not be enough votes to overturn the VETO even after 2010, which means all of this damage will in fact be permanent, and we will be securely on the road to national bankruptcy, depending of course on what exactly is in the bill.
I hope I'm wrong, but personally I'm preparing for if I'm right.