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Old 10-12-2009, 08:17   #31
MtnGoat
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Originally Posted by The Reaper View Post
Sounds like a leadership failure to me.
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AMEN!!! Failure to get off their Arses and go around to the local village(s). Lead from the front.

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Personally I think the reporter RICHARD LARDNER is fabricating some of this story.
Agree with you TS… Someone is feeding this story or lies to push some agenda.

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Originally Posted by Dozer523 View Post
Bull shit. When the final investigation comes out they are going to find a total breakdown. No one with a malfunction was taking care of their weapon. No one witht a Soldier claiming a malfunction was inspecting weapons or anything else for that matter. This battle is going to become the red-headed step-child / poster child for COIN. "Whatever you do DON'T do this."
Yeah, watch they are already saying that the camp was DUE to be CLOSED because of the NEW FOCUS to townships and local centers for Conventional Forces. There will be a spin, off this battle for some months to come. Sad that men had to die, but now “they” will be used IMHO for others gains; Political gains that is.

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Originally Posted by Dozer523 View Post
That battle was lost long before any bad guy came out of that village. It was lost when we wern't having tea in that village.
Conventional Leaders at these “outposts” and firebases all are being “controlled” to do their COIN mission. Which is just to sit in their camps walls. If they get in a fire fight most will go back to their base camps for safety and not engage the enemy. Time will tell from this event.

All of this for a new weapon?? I don't think so. I think there is more to these reports.
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