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Old 09-08-2009, 16:11   #11
afchic
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Originally Posted by frostfire View Post
From another thread with long and spirited discussion, I took from it that reformation of a religion depends primarily on the doctrine fundamentals and the esteemed leaders that the followers trust to make "divine" interpretation. With ******** like this imam, how on earth is Islam ever going to change, let alone be reformed?!??! WarriorMentor is right all along, I suppose.

So what's the big deal with gitmo then...Yes, yes, we are advised to take the higher ground and show the difference between them and us, but at what cost ? At what price mercy?
Do you think that Catholic Popes didn't believe the same things these Imam's do, based on the infalibility of the Pope as established in the 11th Century? their word is Gospel so to speak??? How is it that the Catholic Church was able to transform into what it is today, when the Popes of the day did everything in their power to ensure that nothing changed? Isn't that what is happening with Islam? How can you say with certainty that Islam will never reform?

Reformation for the Catholic Church had more to do with the followers than it did with the leaders of the Church. The same will eventually happen with Islam I believe.
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