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Old 07-29-2009, 15:23   #13
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Looks like the recruiting year ends Sept 30
Looks like they also reduced their recruiting goal a bit
I wonder what that means as far as bonuses are concerned

Again, I totally agree that this is about wanting to live the life and to see and do crazy and exciting things. I have a degree, and could go for OCS instead, but.... that just doesn't offer what I'm looking for. But if they are offering money, then i'll take it. More toys for my son, why not?
Yes, USAREC like most sales engines big and small can be driven by numbers more then reality sometimes. Buy this I mean sales targets are great for management to monitor progress but abutrary lines in the sand can actually be a negative towards actual sales rates. Crazy really, but it's just part of the machine when it comes to sales engines.

USARECs year does end Sep, at the moment they really don't care to much about how many people are coming in, (i.e. aint accepting waivers till Oct probably) they have reached their target for the year already and no ones seperating due to the economy.

However you may find their interest will peak again in the new year when management looks at the whole years targets and wants to score a big hit in the first quarter. You may see bonus increase.

For example the seasonal bonus of $5k isnt so much due to difficulty in filling slots, but more about, new year, new targets, lets start filling the quota quick and a $5k extra bonus will increase numbers.

Not bad things at all, just observations. Understand how the machine works and you will work better with the machine. There's an old saying "Use the system before it uses you", I think a better way to think about it is, "Understand the system so you can use (work-with) each other"

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Also, I think Scimitar is correct, that the 18x is often exploited as a recruiting tactic. A buddy of mine who enlisted as a 25p, was initially told by the recruiter that he should go for 18x. Its funny too, because this is a guy who had to take the treadmill/heart rate test at meps because of his body fat %
Basically recruiters get 2 points for 18X, so if you get over 75% on the ASVAB its in their interest to throw it at you. The ASVAB is really the only screener for the 18X contract too, so basically probably 15% of guys walking thru the door are eligable for it.

I'm not sure if exploited is the right word, again from my experiance 95% of recruiters are well meaning hardworking top notch NCOs. If they weren't they wouldn't have been recommended for recruiting duty. However the necessary evils of the machine and of sales in general does create situations which appear as injustices but really are just a reality. There is a very good reason why our system is based on "Caveat emptor" buyer beware.

The best advice I ever heard was no mater what your age bring an educated savy adult along with you when you visit the recruiter. And just realise the recruiter isnt really obliged to tell you anything that you havn't asked. But when asked he is obliged to tell you his version of the truth.

HTH

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