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Old 06-22-2009, 16:57   #10
Defender968
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Originally Posted by Remington Raidr View Post
The attorney may be able to show that the shooter wasn't thinking clearly, but going behind the counter, getting another firearm, and repeatedly shooting a proned-out GSW is murder. Maybe he can dodge first degree, but that is murder. I want anyone, bad guy, cop, citizen to think twice about taking a life. Hopefully, the defense will be able to show that the asshole was already dead from the headshot, and Mr. Pharmacist was just wasting ammo. Then you might get a straight not-guilty verdict. Otherwise, pack you toothbrush and momma now owns the pharmacy.

As to his medical records, I find it curious that the defense would fight it. Mental state is gonna be big at trial, and if you think your medical records can't be subpoenaed, military or not, think again.
Respectfully Remington you have the ability to Monday morning quarter back this guy just as well as you can any marine, soldier, or police officer down range or on the street, you have that ability because many men have gone out and put their lives on the line to defended your way of life. You want people to think twice before taking a life, that’s a great theory when you’re sitting at home on the couch, but when there are deadly weapons involved a split second may be all that stands between the lives of the innocent and death, and it’s not always that simple even for the professionals. This guy wasn’t a LEO or a soldier, just a guy trying to protect himself. Many LEO’s and Soldiers have had to and will continue to have to make split second life and death decisions. Unless you were there you don't know what happened so you can't say "that is murder". Further even if you've been behind the sights in a two way shooting range I would suggest you reserve judgment until all facts are in, and unless you're on the jury you will likely never have them all.

Now as I said we have no way of knowing what movements that perp made, he could have reached into his pants waist band after the pharmacist went for the second gun. The video doesn't show what the perp is doing, the media simply were reporting that he was "unconscious." Let me ask you this have you ever watched a man with a head wound die? I have many times unfortunately and often they move around, often even after a fatal head wound they gasp for air and flail a bit, I can't tell you the medical reason why but I've seen it up close in person. I know this from personal experience on the job, but this pharmacist would have no way of knowing those kinds of things, he may very well have thought the guy was dead initially when he walked past, then seen the guy start moving, thought he was a threat and unloaded until the guy stopped moving. I can think of several other plausible scenarios where this wasn't a bad shoot, and in the end the only one who really knows is the guy who squeezed the trigger. Realize that it all happened in a matter of less than a minute and this regular Joe had to go from every day pharmacist to gunfighter and maybe with no training at all. The jury will try to discern the truth and they may find him guilty, but this kind of thing is far from a slam dunk.

Also realize the media is already putting spin on this, and who knows what is going on with the prosecutor, I've seen cases get pushed that shouldn't have been, because of other details outside of what happened. In this instance the perps/"victims" age and race could easily be a factor. If his family made enough noise about him being a “kid” and threw the race card you can bet there are lawyers that would pursue a week case just to pass the buck and not get labeled a racist.

Lastly, my thought is this, that kid came in with his buddy, a gun, a mask, and a plan to do harm no matter how you slice it, he knew the risk, he rolled the dice, and he lost. I don’t feel sorry for him, I feel sorry for the pharmacist who had to make the call, because regardless of the outcome of the court case he’ll have to live with that decision for the rest of his life. Me personally, I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

Last edited by Defender968; 06-22-2009 at 18:45.
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