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Old 06-02-2009, 06:45   #15
Richard
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General Washington and our other founding fathers would have thrown a fit at how regulated we have become. Back then you could also say the Pledge and quote the bible with out getting in trouble.
Ahhh...those good ol' days. Just a few points of order to consider.

George and Abe surely didn't have any troubles concerning the Pledge of Allegiance - because it wasn't written until 1892 by Francis Bellamy, a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy. Bellamy's original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the 8 Sep 1892 issue of the children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of America, conceived by James B. Upham.

The original Pledge read, "I Pledge Allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."

As far as not getting into trouble, even then - and even without mentioning under God which came into vogue amongst groups after 1948 and enacted into law by DDE on 14 Jun 1954 - there were groups who were against the pledge as being idolatrous. And then there's the recorded history of Bible quoting (or often nefarious misquoting) troubles - which goes back far beyond the sometimes turbulent times of the Pledge, George Washington, and this nation.

And so it goes...

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