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Bechorg · 03-11-2009, 11:58

"We have lost our capability of speed, flexibility and mobility on the battlefield due to the added on armor. Quick, decisive military action is pretty much a thing of the past. Now, the US military moves with the speed and dexterity of a glacier. IMHO the body armor is symbolic of America’s current attitude towards warfare and the will to win. All one has to do is look at these sprawling “cities” the military has established in the two theaters. They’re bloated and top-heavy with bottom-feeders: REMFs; civilian and military bureaucracies; more field-grade and general-grade officers than you can shake a stick at; contractors; and support units that, IMO, don’t do enough to justify being there. I realize I’m going to be beset upon as that annoying little voice obliterated by the ensuing hurricane of scorn, but we really don’t need half that crap over there. The modern military, in general, is slow, fat and too safety-conscious. Dining facilities that are the envy of the Mall of America, Pizza Hut or Starbucks doesn’t make you a better warrior, it just allows you to become comfortable and therefore complacent and uneager (aka chicken-shit) to go outside the wire, do the job you were trained for, face the threat, and destroy it. War isn’t supposed to be safe and comfy. If you take away all the unnecessary luxuries and distractions then perhaps there will less incentive to linger around over there and the military will be more eager to go home to a real Pizza Hut."

VERY VERY VERY nicely put. Could it be, that even our own conventional army has lost the stomach for a grit in your teeth war?

Every time we rolled in to Bagram or Phoenix every single one of us had it on our minds. "What the hell are most of these people doing here?" and "Must be nice to have ONE decent tasting main dish, none the less 8"

If some of the money and assets trickled down to some of the more remote fobs many of us would feel more supported. Ill bet you Bagram and Kandahar have rocket/mortar radar, and I will also bet you 4/5 most dangerous FOB's and COP's do not in addition to thousands of others amentities.

Also agree with you team sgt..we need to carpet bomb the afghan/pakistan border villages .

03-11-2009, 11:58	#14
Bechorg Quiet Professional Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: >6000ft Posts: 219	"We have lost our capability of speed, flexibility and mobility on the battlefield due to the added on armor. Quick, decisive military action is pretty much a thing of the past. Now, the US military moves with the speed and dexterity of a glacier. IMHO the body armor is symbolic of America’s current attitude towards warfare and the will to win. All one has to do is look at these sprawling “cities” the military has established in the two theaters. They’re bloated and top-heavy with bottom-feeders: REMFs; civilian and military bureaucracies; more field-grade and general-grade officers than you can shake a stick at; contractors; and support units that, IMO, don’t do enough to justify being there. I realize I’m going to be beset upon as that annoying little voice obliterated by the ensuing hurricane of scorn, but we really don’t need half that crap over there. The modern military, in general, is slow, fat and too safety-conscious. Dining facilities that are the envy of the Mall of America, Pizza Hut or Starbucks doesn’t make you a better warrior, it just allows you to become comfortable and therefore complacent and uneager (aka chicken-shit) to go outside the wire, do the job you were trained for, face the threat, and destroy it. War isn’t supposed to be safe and comfy. If you take away all the unnecessary luxuries and distractions then perhaps there will less incentive to linger around over there and the military will be more eager to go home to a real Pizza Hut." VERY VERY VERY nicely put. Could it be, that even our own conventional army has lost the stomach for a grit in your teeth war? Every time we rolled in to Bagram or Phoenix every single one of us had it on our minds. "What the hell are most of these people doing here?" and "Must be nice to have ONE decent tasting main dish, none the less 8" If some of the money and assets trickled down to some of the more remote fobs many of us would feel more supported. Ill bet you Bagram and Kandahar have rocket/mortar radar, and I will also bet you 4/5 most dangerous FOB's and COP's do not in addition to thousands of others amentities. Also agree with you team sgt..we need to carpet bomb the afghan/pakistan border villages .
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