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**Peregrino** · 12-16-2008, 22:04

Price is the "Great Discriminator". LR1947's suggestions are for guys with DEEP pockets. Wish I had the money to take his advice. One of the best long range shooters I know uses Weaver T-Series scopes. Another figures it's easier to buy adequate (cheap) scopes and "retire" them after a few seasons. Both of these guys are expert shooters with military backgrounds. Their requirements no longer demand the extreme scopes LR is recommending and they don't see the sense in "wasting" the money on unneeded capabilities. (Course both of them already have safes full of the expensive stuff too!) Many companies manufacture adequate scopes. Personal opinion - long range shooting requires resolution 1st and magnification 2nd. Light gathering is 3rd (real snipers have access to expensive toys to aid in low-light shooting). Identify your requirements - do you need the extreme capabilities (and concomitant quality) that a military or police "sniper" requires? If so, take LR's advice. Next down would probably be the NF or a US Optics. After that maybe Leupold, then Burris, Nikon. After that tradeoffs start becoming more apparent. Then you have to look at mounting systems. You're going to have fun mounting the NF 56mm obj low enough to be comfortable; you'll probably find yourself wishing for an adjustable comb before you're finished.

And (finally) to offer an answer to your original question - Leupold 4.5-14x50mm LR/T M1 TMR. It will do everything you want and not be overkill on a .308. Illuminated reticles and MD vs. TMR are outside the scope of my enthusiasm tonight. HTH

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Peregrino Quiet Professional Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Occupied Pineland Posts: 4,701	Price is the "Great Discriminator". LR1947's suggestions are for guys with DEEP pockets. Wish I had the money to take his advice. One of the best long range shooters I know uses Weaver T-Series scopes. Another figures it's easier to buy adequate (cheap) scopes and "retire" them after a few seasons. Both of these guys are expert shooters with military backgrounds. Their requirements no longer demand the extreme scopes LR is recommending and they don't see the sense in "wasting" the money on unneeded capabilities. (Course both of them already have safes full of the expensive stuff too!) Many companies manufacture adequate scopes. Personal opinion - long range shooting requires resolution 1st and magnification 2nd. Light gathering is 3rd (real snipers have access to expensive toys to aid in low-light shooting). Identify your requirements - do you need the extreme capabilities (and concomitant quality) that a military or police "sniper" requires? If so, take LR's advice. Next down would probably be the NF or a US Optics. After that maybe Leupold, then Burris, Nikon. After that tradeoffs start becoming more apparent. Then you have to look at mounting systems. You're going to have fun mounting the NF 56mm obj low enough to be comfortable; you'll probably find yourself wishing for an adjustable comb before you're finished. And (finally) to offer an answer to your original question - Leupold 4.5-14x50mm LR/T M1 TMR. It will do everything you want and not be overkill on a .308. Illuminated reticles and MD vs. TMR are outside the scope of my enthusiasm tonight. HTH __________________ A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero (42B.C)
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