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hoot72 · 10-05-2008, 18:19

I recently came to find out some interesting (not so interesting maybe) information on the Sipadan Kidnappings in North Borneo that may or may not be helpful.

Its common knowledge among most politicians in Sabah that Malaysia has sanctioned and quietly assisted the funneling of money and weapons to the insurgency and other Islamic "freedom" fighters since the late 70's and also common knowledge for those of us who do know a little bit of history in the political realm. Libya had been funnelling weapons and money through Sabah up till the mid 80's.

Sabah, has for the most part been a christian dominated community (one of the 13 states in the federation of Malaysia) but we have seen a 280% increase in the number of "citizens" being issued mycards, or identity cards (which essentially mean someone is a child or new citizen) since the early 1990's till recent. This is unheard of in any developing country, especially Sabah given the population numbers here.

The Sipadan Kidnappings is something that was not planned but one that was carried out in relation to what the federal has been doing quietly, in that, it has been issuing and selling "citizenship" via the issuence of Mycards to Filipino's and Indonesians, to shift the christian majority to a muslim majority to favour their ambitions in the State.

There is currently a lot of unhappiness among local Sabahans who make up the original population because everyone knows whats been going on and who has been behind this "project M" as we call it but the federal government are turning a blind eye to it and pretending it never happened or continues to happen.

The Sipadan kidnapping, was a kidnapping that happened because the federal government, renegaded on a promise to pay these smugglers from Mindanao who had been transporting illegals into the state and assisting in the mycard project approx. MYR $6 million, which, was never paid as promised.

The very people who had been conducting the operation over a period of time were also former bodyguards of the former Sabah Chief Minister Yong Teck Lee, who is now, very much an opposition leader against the Federal Government and I am sure, has quite a lot of dirty secrets on the federal government, which is one of the reasons they haven't arrested him under the Internal Secrets Act, which is a 2 year isolation without a trail.

Yong Teck Lee had, in the past, had the very same kidnappers (or some of them from the actual kidnap team) as his personal bodyguards, as he is from Lahad Datu, a small town, north of Semporna town where Sipadan lies of the coast from and where some of them actually have homes and family.

It gives you an idea of how porous the border is between Sabah and South Philiipines.

The money, which was promised, was never paid and this pissed of these guys and the only way they were going to get their money was the easiest option available; Sipadan.

They actually departed out of Semporna and NOT Mindanao or Zambonga but once they had the kidnap victims, proceed across the border into Philippine waters.

The fact is the members of the kidnap team stayed at Hyatt Kinabalu day's before the kidnapping while waiting for the money which never was paid (the people who were supposed to make the payment decided they were not going to pay and were going to pretend they didn't have an agreement and keep the money for themselves as they were based in Kuala Lumpur).

Americans on the island was a bonus for them.

Yong Teck Lee, flew out to Manila, a few day's after the kidnapping with MYR $2 or 3 million which was hastily put together, with the hope it would be sufficient to appease the kidnappers and to release the hostages and he was hoping to slow talk the group's representatives whom he met in Manila, without success.

They refused and infact increased the ransom demand and wanted more given they now had americans in the group. This was why the malaysians were eventually separated from the americans and they were released, while the americans were not.

This was a business deal gone bad but it gives you some idea as to how the malaysian government is sort of linked in some ways to the Abu Syaff and how much weight they do or did have with the very same guys who lived and worked in Sabah and are also filipinos from the south and the fact they actually have malaysian ID cards (and are citizens).

I felt it was something that might be helpful to you in the future to understand the wierd political and social problems out in North Borneo.

10-05-2008, 18:19	#1
hoot72 Guerrilla Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: North of the Kingdom of Brunei, South of Mindanao Posts: 482	Fascinating Malaysia! I recently came to find out some interesting (not so interesting maybe) information on the Sipadan Kidnappings in North Borneo that may or may not be helpful. Its common knowledge among most politicians in Sabah that Malaysia has sanctioned and quietly assisted the funneling of money and weapons to the insurgency and other Islamic "freedom" fighters since the late 70's and also common knowledge for those of us who do know a little bit of history in the political realm. Libya had been funnelling weapons and money through Sabah up till the mid 80's. Sabah, has for the most part been a christian dominated community (one of the 13 states in the federation of Malaysia) but we have seen a 280% increase in the number of "citizens" being issued mycards, or identity cards (which essentially mean someone is a child or new citizen) since the early 1990's till recent. This is unheard of in any developing country, especially Sabah given the population numbers here. The Sipadan Kidnappings is something that was not planned but one that was carried out in relation to what the federal has been doing quietly, in that, it has been issuing and selling "citizenship" via the issuence of Mycards to Filipino's and Indonesians, to shift the christian majority to a muslim majority to favour their ambitions in the State. There is currently a lot of unhappiness among local Sabahans who make up the original population because everyone knows whats been going on and who has been behind this "project M" as we call it but the federal government are turning a blind eye to it and pretending it never happened or continues to happen. The Sipadan kidnapping, was a kidnapping that happened because the federal government, renegaded on a promise to pay these smugglers from Mindanao who had been transporting illegals into the state and assisting in the mycard project approx. MYR $6 million, which, was never paid as promised. The very people who had been conducting the operation over a period of time were also former bodyguards of the former Sabah Chief Minister Yong Teck Lee, who is now, very much an opposition leader against the Federal Government and I am sure, has quite a lot of dirty secrets on the federal government, which is one of the reasons they haven't arrested him under the Internal Secrets Act, which is a 2 year isolation without a trail. Yong Teck Lee had, in the past, had the very same kidnappers (or some of them from the actual kidnap team) as his personal bodyguards, as he is from Lahad Datu, a small town, north of Semporna town where Sipadan lies of the coast from and where some of them actually have homes and family. It gives you an idea of how porous the border is between Sabah and South Philiipines. The money, which was promised, was never paid and this pissed of these guys and the only way they were going to get their money was the easiest option available; Sipadan. They actually departed out of Semporna and NOT Mindanao or Zambonga but once they had the kidnap victims, proceed across the border into Philippine waters. The fact is the members of the kidnap team stayed at Hyatt Kinabalu day's before the kidnapping while waiting for the money which never was paid (the people who were supposed to make the payment decided they were not going to pay and were going to pretend they didn't have an agreement and keep the money for themselves as they were based in Kuala Lumpur). Americans on the island was a bonus for them. Yong Teck Lee, flew out to Manila, a few day's after the kidnapping with MYR $2 or 3 million which was hastily put together, with the hope it would be sufficient to appease the kidnappers and to release the hostages and he was hoping to slow talk the group's representatives whom he met in Manila, without success. They refused and infact increased the ransom demand and wanted more given they now had americans in the group. This was why the malaysians were eventually separated from the americans and they were released, while the americans were not. This was a business deal gone bad but it gives you some idea as to how the malaysian government is sort of linked in some ways to the Abu Syaff and how much weight they do or did have with the very same guys who lived and worked in Sabah and are also filipinos from the south and the fact they actually have malaysian ID cards (and are citizens). I felt it was something that might be helpful to you in the future to understand the wierd political and social problems out in North Borneo. Last edited by hoot72; 10-30-2008 at 22:49.
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