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Old 09-25-2008, 23:57   #132
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Of course the emphasis was yours. It is a ridiculous reach that makes no sense.
Ad Absurdum

Noting that the emphasis was mine is merely a style formality when quoting.
Mocking it does not make an effective argument.

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Abortion was on the table back then so he wanted us to "BE AWARE" of the coming devil? LOL. Are you kidding me?
Ignoratio Elenchi

In the context of the thread, the quote addresses the inherent narcissism present in typical pro-abortion arguments.
Presenting and knocking down an irrelevent straw man argument misses the point.

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Seriously, you ultra-conservative Republicans are making it very difficult for mainstream-Republicans like me to defend ourselves.

Can we label you something else?

Way out of touch, maybe?
Ad Hominem

There are a great many flaws in me.
However, I am not the issue.

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In my post responding to Jamber's "separation of church and state" comment, I was attempting to point out that the issues surrounding this quote are much more complex than the oft-quoted 5 words.

"Separation of church and state" is a favored tool among those not willing to look more deeply.
Most of the time, it is used as a secundum quid et simpliciter argument.


FWIW, I am well aware of the origin of "separation of church and state", the historical context in which it was written, and, if one were to accept the contemporary interpretation, the implication of severe cognitive dissonance which would have to be attributed to the author, considering the first sentence of his most famous document.
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