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Old 01-30-2004, 14:50   #17
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Re: Re: Now that I have a few minutes to type...

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Originally posted by HQ6
The moral issue vs. financial issue was the original question.

Take care.

HQ6
The whole point is that your original question is based on a logical fallacy. It is a fallacy of bifurcation, in this case a disjunctive syllogism (the "either/or" fallacy):

Either p or q.
Not-p.
Therefore, q.



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Originally posted by longrange1947
Noticed the US on that list.
Yeah, you would think a responsible American media (an oxymoron, I know) would be more concerned with finding out what Americans were on that list. The French media is certainly going after Pasqua and the others (all of whom naturally deny everything). The one UK name I know of on the list was pro-Saddam former Labour MP George Galloway, whose alleged bribe-taking became public last April.
The two Americans on the list are Iraqi-American businessman Samir Vincent and pro-Saddam Iraqi expatriate Shakir al-Khafaji.

In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Vincent had been able to insinuate himself among various political and religious groups favoring lifting sanctions, and he got close to luminaries such as Jack Kemp.

As for al-Khafaji, a pro-Saddam website carried this report a year and a half ago about him:
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Saddam receives cable of solidarity from Iraqi expatriates
Story Filed: Monday, September 30, 2002 9:57 AM EST
Sep 30, 2002 (Al-Bawaba via COMTEX) -- President Saddam Hussein has received a telegram of pledge from Iraqi expatriates, INA news agency reported Sunday.

The telegram was sent by chairman of the 17th conference of Iraqi expatriates Shaker Al-Khafaji who pledged, on behalf of the Iraqi expatriates gathering in Sofia, to defend Baghdad's positions in international forums and confront all aggressive policies, INA added. "We express our full solidarity with the wise and brave leadership of Iraq and hail President Hussein's brave and honorable stances in /confronting/ the evil policies that aim at harming Iraq's sovereignty," Al-Khafaji said. (Albawaba.com) By Al-Bawaba Reporters
An opinion piece from a conservative online journal in September 2002 says that al-Khafaji financed (to the tune of $400,000) former weapons inspector and alleged pedophile Scott Ritter's documentary "In Shifting Sands," but I am still looking for other corroboration for that.

Regards,
Dave

PS, complete list of alleged bribe-takers is here: http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/show...threadid=33732
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