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enterfirst · 03-26-2008, 13:49

X-Factor,

I admire the fact that you are standing up for the rights of innocent people who are doing no harm. Of course there are Muslims out there who mean no harm. I don't think anyone would agree with a course of action that would purposely hurt innocent people. But to answer the post's question, "Are we at war with Islam?" or maybe "(Should) we be at war with Islam?" I believe the answer is yes (we should).

Religions or beliefs systems of any kind are difficult to judge on the scale of "good" or "bad." Ex. "Christianity is good (or better)" and "Islam is bad (or worse than x/a/b religion)" But I think the question we should ask ourselves when deciding a religions worth in a free society is, "Has belief system
X historically lined up with the basic tenets of our society." I think it's important to note that we should not ask "Can it line up?" Any terrible belief system can be skewed into lining up if you twist it enough. But I think one can make the argument that though belief systems evolve, many stay true to their basic foundational beliefs. We all know what these are in the Quran.

Any belief system historically not lining up with a free society, as in Islam, should definitely be discouraged (at least). Since it's creation, Islam has had little period in history that was peaceful at all. Even taking modern examples. When has there been a time when Islamic societies, or Islamic States, more specifically, been a haven for freedom of speech, individual rights, etc.?

History has taught us that letting small, "unimportant" and "innocent" actions in the name of being "nice and inclusive because many of them are nice people" can lead to extremely dangerous consequences.

03-26-2008, 13:49	#969
enterfirst Asset Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Iowa Posts: 46	X-Factor, I admire the fact that you are standing up for the rights of innocent people who are doing no harm. Of course there are Muslims out there who mean no harm. I don't think anyone would agree with a course of action that would purposely hurt innocent people. But to answer the post's question, "Are we at war with Islam?" or maybe "(Should) we be at war with Islam?" I believe the answer is yes (we should). Religions or beliefs systems of any kind are difficult to judge on the scale of "good" or "bad." Ex. "Christianity is good (or better)" and "Islam is bad (or worse than x/a/b religion)" But I think the question we should ask ourselves when deciding a religions worth in a free society is, "Has belief system X historically lined up with the basic tenets of our society." I think it's important to note that we should not ask "Can it line up?" Any terrible belief system can be skewed into lining up if you twist it enough. But I think one can make the argument that though belief systems evolve, many stay true to their basic foundational beliefs. We all know what these are in the Quran. Any belief system historically not lining up with a free society, as in Islam, should definitely be discouraged (at least). Since it's creation, Islam has had little period in history that was peaceful at all. Even taking modern examples. When has there been a time when Islamic societies, or Islamic States, more specifically, been a haven for freedom of speech, individual rights, etc.? History has taught us that letting small, "unimportant" and "innocent" actions in the name of being "nice and inclusive because many of them are nice people" can lead to extremely dangerous consequences.
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