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Old 02-06-2008, 07:30   #59
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Originally Posted by Trip_Wire View Post
There you go TS, painting all LEO's with the same brush. Yes, I'm sure the the LEO range Sgt. you describe exists somewhere in this Country.

On the other hand, there are many departments that practice very good training and tactics and have the appropriate modern firearms training in place. Many use the same civilian people who train SEALs and Delta people in CQC.

Don't you think that the people whom I mentioned in my last message, SEALs, SF people and others who have been called to active duty and served in combat, etc. from their LE jobs are not going to know how to deal with terrorists?

I'll admit that many LE departments in the US, fit into what you describe; however, there are many that don't. Some might just surprise you, with their proficiency in both firearms training and tactics to deal with terrorist activities. Of course any type of basic firearms training, even from "a big coffee drinking 350 lb range sergeant thats been teaching the same shooting style for the last 44 years......" is better then no training!

I wasn't really impressed with the level of firearms training I got in the military, especially the pistol training. As well as annual military qualification courses.

Of course, both the armed forces and LE suffer from the PC view of a lot of the people at the higher levels and the media. A good example is the attempt to court-martial some SF people for killing a terrorist in the 'Stan.

IMHO they did a great job. I have always been of the mind that taking terrorist prisoners, except for Intel, is the wrong thing to do. They are not going to change their goals and will only come back to be a problem for you again, one way or the other.


I think both the SAS and GSG-9 have the right idea on dealing with terrorists.
Actually I've seen that fat range Sgt, teaching 40 y/o techniques at more than one LEO range.

Can the SF'ers and SEALS deal with terrorists, I doubt it with current LEO ROE.

We've already seen first hand what two bank robbers can do to 100 of Americas finest, the LAPD. I've no doubt what 5-10 armed terrorists will do if and when it happens, no doubt at all.

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