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82ndtrooper · 11-27-2007, 18:41

"I'm not going to let them get away with this" This quote taken from the transcripts is damaging to his credibility, especially since he was not in harms way and on the phone with the 911 dispatcher inside of his own residence.

"Burglars breaking into a house next door" Clearly his castle was not being burglarized and he was not faced with a deadly threat to his own personal life.

"I've got a shotgun, do you want me to stop them?" This demonstrates that he is going to use deadly force and has asked for permission from the dispatcher to do so. What other means aside from deadly force did he have in mind ? Citizens arrest ?

"I have a right to protect myself too sir" From what ? Burglars across the street but not at his residence nor inside his residence ?

"An the laws have changed in this country since September 1st, you know it and I know it. I have a right to protect myself" Burglars at this time are supposedly not a direct threat to him, so what was he protecting himself against ? Details here are not clear, but at this point it appears that he is making a critical decision to create the buzz saw not react to being placed into that buzz saw unwillingly.

"Get the law over here quick, I managed to get one of them, he's in the yard over there and the other one is running down the street, I had no choice" What's interesting about his statement to the dispatcher is "he's in the yard over there" Did he fire across the property line ? Did they enter his yard and flee when he said "Dont move or your dead" ? Police officers themselves would have reholstered and began a foot pursuit. Again the details here are not clear, but it's apparent to me that Mr. Horn was perfectly safe, had no need to defend himself from a threat that was not present and used excessive force when it was not necessary. And, he was told to stand down multiple times by the dispatcher.

Mr. Horn is an idiot.

If I witness two men burglarizing the town home across the street I'm not going to grab the Benelli, leave my premisis and jump start the buzz saw to which I could have avoided by simply staying on the phone with the dispatcher, gave detailed descriptions of the perps, possibly license plate numbers, and vehicle description and the direction in which the vehicle fled.

He obviously does not know the law to which he referred to on the phone with the dispatcher. He's not and old man, he's only 61 and that ain't old so the "Poor Boy old man" defense won't cut it.

11-27-2007, 18:41	#57
82ndtrooper BANNED USER Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,189	Creation of the buzzsaw "I'm not going to let them get away with this" This quote taken from the transcripts is damaging to his credibility, especially since he was not in harms way and on the phone with the 911 dispatcher inside of his own residence. "Burglars breaking into a house next door" Clearly his castle was not being burglarized and he was not faced with a deadly threat to his own personal life. "I've got a shotgun, do you want me to stop them?" This demonstrates that he is going to use deadly force and has asked for permission from the dispatcher to do so. What other means aside from deadly force did he have in mind ? Citizens arrest ? "I have a right to protect myself too sir" From what ? Burglars across the street but not at his residence nor inside his residence ? "An the laws have changed in this country since September 1st, you know it and I know it. I have a right to protect myself" Burglars at this time are supposedly not a direct threat to him, so what was he protecting himself against ? Details here are not clear, but at this point it appears that he is making a critical decision to create the buzz saw not react to being placed into that buzz saw unwillingly. "Get the law over here quick, I managed to get one of them, he's in the yard over there and the other one is running down the street, I had no choice" What's interesting about his statement to the dispatcher is "he's in the yard over there" Did he fire across the property line ? Did they enter his yard and flee when he said "Dont move or your dead" ? Police officers themselves would have reholstered and began a foot pursuit. Again the details here are not clear, but it's apparent to me that Mr. Horn was perfectly safe, had no need to defend himself from a threat that was not present and used excessive force when it was not necessary. And, he was told to stand down multiple times by the dispatcher. Mr. Horn is an idiot. If I witness two men burglarizing the town home across the street I'm not going to grab the Benelli, leave my premisis and jump start the buzz saw to which I could have avoided by simply staying on the phone with the dispatcher, gave detailed descriptions of the perps, possibly license plate numbers, and vehicle description and the direction in which the vehicle fled. He obviously does not know the law to which he referred to on the phone with the dispatcher. He's not and old man, he's only 61 and that ain't old so the "Poor Boy old man" defense won't cut it. Last edited by 82ndtrooper; 11-27-2007 at 18:43.
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