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**The Reaper** · 07-03-2007, 11:35

I think that if you are going to be permitted your position, you have to permit those who disagree with you to have theirs.

Are you saying that Libby leaked Plame's name? I thought that was Armitage, over at State? What did Libby really do to get 30 months? For that matter, I think Plame's husband did more to out her and jeopardize national security than anyone else has. Has he been charged?

It is extremely ironic that those who found no fault with Billy Boy pardoning familiy members who were drug dealers, college buddies, business associates, cabinet members, tax dodgers, criminals who had fled the country, campaign donors, etc. are upset about this pardon. At least Libby didn't buy his commutation (not pardon).

Hillary's brother, Hugh Rodham, collected $400,000 from two serious criminals who got pardons. When the news of the payments broke, the Clintons claimed surprise and demanded Rodham give the money back.

The former wife of disgraced financier Marc Rich gave $450,000 to Clinton's presidential library and raised and contributed more than $1 million to campaigns of the Clintons and other Democrats. Her husband, who had fled the country rather than fight charges of massive tax fraud and trading with Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis, suddenly received a pardon. "Utterly false," Bill Clinton later said about charges he sold the pardon. "There was absolutely no quid pro quo." Yeah, right.

Kind of like the dismissals of politically apppinted Federal Attorneys deemed to be sub-standard is a huge issue after the Klintons fired not only every prosecutor, INCLUDING the ones investigating them, but salaried workers like the WH Travel Office as well.

Why the sudden moral outrage when these are the perqs of the office holder and the previous administration set such a dismal record that it is unlikely the current one will ever be able to reach their degree of self-service, cronyism, criminality, and political shenanigans?

TR

07-03-2007, 11:35	#7
The Reaper Quiet Professional Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Free Pineland Posts: 24,820	I think that if you are going to be permitted your position, you have to permit those who disagree with you to have theirs. Are you saying that Libby leaked Plame's name? I thought that was Armitage, over at State? What did Libby really do to get 30 months? For that matter, I think Plame's husband did more to out her and jeopardize national security than anyone else has. Has he been charged? It is extremely ironic that those who found no fault with Billy Boy pardoning familiy members who were drug dealers, college buddies, business associates, cabinet members, tax dodgers, criminals who had fled the country, campaign donors, etc. are upset about this pardon. At least Libby didn't buy his commutation (not pardon). Hillary's brother, Hugh Rodham, collected $400,000 from two serious criminals who got pardons. When the news of the payments broke, the Clintons claimed surprise and demanded Rodham give the money back. The former wife of disgraced financier Marc Rich gave $450,000 to Clinton's presidential library and raised and contributed more than $1 million to campaigns of the Clintons and other Democrats. Her husband, who had fled the country rather than fight charges of massive tax fraud and trading with Iran during the 1979 hostage crisis, suddenly received a pardon. "Utterly false," Bill Clinton later said about charges he sold the pardon. "There was absolutely no quid pro quo." Yeah, right. Kind of like the dismissals of politically apppinted Federal Attorneys deemed to be sub-standard is a huge issue after the Klintons fired not only every prosecutor, INCLUDING the ones investigating them, but salaried workers like the WH Travel Office as well. Why the sudden moral outrage when these are the perqs of the office holder and the previous administration set such a dismal record that it is unlikely the current one will ever be able to reach their degree of self-service, cronyism, criminality, and political shenanigans? TR __________________ "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat." - President Theodore Roosevelt, 1910 De Oppresso Liber 01/20/2025
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