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Originally Posted by The Reaper
Nighthawk:
I would not imply that people here are lying or stupid, either.
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Sorry, my fault, that's the way I took it.
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Attention to detail. You left out the space between the HK and the 416. The HK is too short for the search engine, but the 416 turns up 16 hits, including this one, most all have some relevance to the weapons system.
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Got me there. My fault. That's why I listed the ways I searched. The search engine is a little more finicky than I figured I guess.
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Funny, I am getting better than 1,000 rounds between cleanings with no malfunctions. Crane NWC's M-4 program manager tells me that the current M-4 system should be fine up to 5,000 rounds without cleaning.
What kind of M-4 are you running, what kind of mags, what ammo, how old and how many rounds do the weapons have through them, are they being maintained properly, are you lubricating them properly, and what is your MTBF/MTBS?
Inquiring minds want to know.
TR
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I wasn't referring to malfunctions. I was referring to clean-up. I'm the type that can't go without cleaning my rifle after a detail. Call it OCD or whatever, but the thought of a much quicker cleaning session is very appealing.
As far as what type M4, my personal is a Colt AR which I used for a short time on our Tactical Team until we got our Bushmaster M4's. As far as mags.....I have 3 30rd Colts and I had 7 30rd bushmaster mags for the bush. No cheap aftermarket versions. As far as ammo....that depended really on what the state provided most of the time, but it was always name brand stuff of mostly the federal make.
Now.......... our Bushmasters had to be returned for them to fix a problem that they "didn't have" if you know what I mean. But when they were returned, they never did it again. Go figure. They were having ejection problems. Instead of ejecting the spent round, the brass was getting shoved above the gas tube as the bolt came forward and only partially loaded the next round resulting in a jam. And this happened on 2 thirds of our teams rifles at different intervals. No rhyme or reason and they were all cleaned/lubed after each use. I tell you this simply for the story value. I, in no way imply that carbon build-up caused these malfunctions nor do I debunk it.
And I'm no guru to say the least, but all the operators in the field that are having malfunctions from carbon build-up from lack of cleaning opportunities is the whole reason for the move to gas-piston systems is it not?? Along with severe environments also. I'm just wondering.