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Originally Posted by longrange1947
I was there when it changed. I came in as an E2 in 67 and in 68 they changed to the shake and bake. My 91B class was all E-2s and when we got back to Bragg we were being ordered about by E5s with less time in the army then we had in Tng Group as we were still E2s. The powers to be stated that we came in under the "old program" and would stay E2s until we graduated. They gave us E3 at the start of final phase and E4 with our orders to Groups.
Hipshot, I too did the Fort Ord thing in 67. Did they have the white "Maggot" patch on your uniform as well during basic? Had something to do with menningitis and basic trainees being seperate form the rest fo post. Never did understand that one.
I suffered 10th and 1st Group instead of 5th. 
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Man - I had totally forgotten about the 'maggot tags' we had to wear in basic. If I remember correctly, it was a white tag, same size as the name tag on our fatigues (pre-BDU; even before ripstop!), worn above the name tag. That let everyone know that you were a trainee.
I made E3 out of basic (had 2 years of college), E4 once I hit Bragg and started training group, E5 when I completed training and went to Co. D, 5th Group in May '71. Made E6 in Sept 73 after BNCOES and Flintlock; ANCOES in '74 and would have made E7 in Sept '78, except I left the service. Broke my back in 2 places in '77 during a demo jump and lost my 'S' qualifier.
Remember ice plant and the beach ranges at Ord. The land nav course was out by Laguna Seca race track - we used to watch the drivers practice when we were running the course.