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Originally Posted by incommin
in 24 years of service, I never used it or talked to another soldier who used it...... so I ask the question....... how often do we now close with an enemy soldier and go at it hand to hand?
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We have to look beyond "closing the distance with an enemy soldier". The Army actually tracks as many H2H situations as possible from Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. Many of the AAR's are from SF units. I have read and heard many of them. The last number I saw was somewhere in the 1000's of all the AAR's with H2H fighting. How many times do soldiers put there hands on a LN? At a VCP? At any kind of check point?
We are very often within "Combatives" range of LN's. To better illustrate my point, an example...
Hypothetically speaking, we (1 Squad Plus straps) are at a VCP in the middle of a decent sized village, Eastern Afghanistan, near the Pakistan border. Not a lot of people like us too much here, and there have been a string of issues in the area lately. Are ROE's are a lot more strict then they should be, but they are what they are. There are at least a couple hundred LN's roaming around, watching, etc. So, a LN, just being a moron, not doing it on purpose, rides his bike right thru the VCP. Shooting him is not an option. MACP here we come. Hypothetically, he is grabbed off the bike with a Rear Naked Choke, and quickly put unconcious. All the LN's are waiting to see what was going to happen to decide how to react. The guy on the bike is searched and is pulled off to the side to be awakened.
Not the best example, but still a good example of a situation where ROE was restricted, deadly force was not an option, and a non-lethal technique was used.