[MtnGoat]

Points are good, but I hate the media and the in sensational pull with Vietnam war. Tying the two war together. What would they be saying if we had cut the city (Baghdad) off and made in a total controlled area as the green zone is.

I don’t know, but we can go back and tie together all of the COIN “Wars” together. That what the media does so well. Let have a new shark summer this year, what will next summer topic be. Polls anyone.

We can look at the Maoist Insurgency in Nepal that lasted some 6 years and claimed the lives of 1500 people. The patterns of insurgency in the past by way of establishing how much the conflict in Iraq conforms to previous experience. This is for Historians and military to study not the media to start debates over and to draw stories up. The middle America. But this what we live with – a media to pull at the American Psyche.

But if there had been an honest recognition prior to the Iraq War that what it would involve would be not a glorious "cakewalk" of quick conquest in conventional war, but a protracted, costly, bloody guerrilla war, the public and Congressional discussions prior to the war might have had greater seriousness and greater substance. So what do we have going on now. WHat is the new end state?