[Odd Job]

@ X_Sf_med

I did not lay into you until you spouted off as an expert and discounted all opinions but your own. I said nothing abut your attitude until it became intolerable. With every request ( at times stern) for you to change your attitude, we have been subject to a series of excuses, whines and "I know more than you's".

Can you please tell me where I discounted every opinion but my own? If that is the case, what is my purpose here, to waste peoples' time? Please give me a bit more credit than that.

As to medical experience - any qualified SF Medical NCO is a primary caregiver for his team in the field, and a more than qualified trauma caregiver in any setting- do a little checking into the requirements for earning just the medical qualifiactions for an 18D (there are links on this site). During my training, back in the dark ages, we were required to work in the Emergency Room of a major military hospital on our own time - we generally chose Friday and Saturday nights, or the days when there were major Airborne operations... would you care to hazard a guess why? Try gunshot wounds, stabbings, major traumas, and acute illnesses. A good number of us have also been through full qualification as SF Weapons NCOs. Using straight logic, don't you think that there is a deep understanding of ballistic trauma to the human body?

I fully agree, and if those certain members want to argue with me based upon their experience that is fine, in fact that is what I want, a discussion. Nowhere do I say any of you don't have the werewithall to discuss this matter. Yet instead of discussing it, there are certain members here who resort to derogatory and derisive attacks on me and and my profession.

Treat us with the same respect you were treated with before you wanted to prove you were some kind of demigod - if you are good at your job, fine - don't try to throw your degrees at us - most of us do have (if not the paper, the experience of) multiple college degrees.

Sir, you are all afforded respect from me BY DEFAULT. That is what I have been trying to tell you. I don't think I am any kind of demigod, SS posted statistics instead of addressing the questions I had to do with LeMas, and I also posted statistics. I am not throwing any qualifications at you: in fact it is my qualifaction that seems to be the bone of contention here. I have experience just like you and all I ask is that you hear me out instead of branding me a 'photographer' and dismissing what I have to say.

If you would question and listen to what others say, then form cogent antitheses, that lead to understanding / synthesis - that is a formal argument. What you are doing is forming arguments ad- hominem and arguments from weakness- which have been shown to be fallacious. I will spend the time to map out your premises and conclusions into logic trees if you require them.

I am questioning and listening, in fact I am getting no answers to my questions, as is plainly obvious to anyone who has been following this thread form the start. I find it quite amusing that you mention 'ad-hominem' when it is I who is the victim of ad hominem attacks. Show me where I am guilty of this. Show me where my arguments are fallacious.

I don't claim to be a radiographer, but I can read an x-ray, MRI, CAT or PET scan pretty well.

Yeah, and if I afforded you the same credibility as you have afforded me I would say you have no business looking at any medical imaging because you are nothing more than a field medic. (Please note I do not claim that, I just want you to know how it feels to be treated this way).