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SRT31B · 03-26-2006, 15:15

DISCLAIMER: I am not an SME and would only like to throw in my own personal experiences.

A bit of background: I work in a place with a big fence and bright lights that are designed to keep people in, not out, if you catch my drift.

So far in my dealings with the followers of islam it has been my experience that perhaps the only real "effective" weapon against them would be thier religion itself. Anything else just doesn't seem like it would work too well. In dealing with these people I have found it to be like dealing with nothing more than little kids. Grown men with the mentality of 9 year olds. I would think that a few isolated instances of that may not be uncommon when you think about the environment that they're in, but when this is something all across the board that, to me, is significant.

I have yet to have much experience with people outside my workplace so I tend to be a bit biased in my opinion of them, but my hope is that not everyone has the same mentality as the ones that I deal with. The mindset of anyone that I have dealt with up to this point (with a VERY few exceptions) is one of extreme ignorance and hard headedness. These people know nothing but religion, and it dictates their entire life. From dawn till dusk I hear nothing but the mullahs teaching their sermons of jihad against the infidels in the name of allah. I really hope that there are at least some residents of this region a bit more enlightened than these.

To the point, an effective weapon: I had stated earlier that I believe their religion held the key. Unless I have misunderstood something, muslims believe that pig is an unclean animal. If they touch an unclean animal they are tainted and will not be able to enter heaven. Why not use this against them? Openly advertise that our bullets are coated in pig fat and that if an insurgent is struck by one he will be unclean and not fit to receive his reward of 40 virgins in heaven. I believe that this would effectively reduce, if not eliminate over time the number of people willing to risk their afterlife for their cause.

I am currently researching this further as I beleive sometime in the late 19th century there was a similiar uprising in the region where this tactic was also used effectively. Can't remember for sure so I just want to double check. I am also currently looking into islam as a whole because if you know your enemy you can better know how to defeat him.

The over riding fact though that I have come across in all my dealings so far is that muslims as a whole love death. America loves life. To them it is better to die in the name of allah than to live a long life. They don't care what it costs, in lives or time, so long as they kill as many as they can when they go, and it will never stop. Even the ones that I interact with are still constantly trying to find ways to kill us.

Like I stated earlier, I'm new to the game and I'm still doing my research, but so far I really don't think there is a way to "win the hearts and minds" of these people. And they really don't give the desired response to the whole "give them a hug and hold their hand" routine being forced on me and my coworkers right now.

Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

03-26-2006, 15:15	#8
SRT31B SF Candidate Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Eglin Main Posts: 144	DISCLAIMER: I am not an SME and would only like to throw in my own personal experiences. A bit of background: I work in a place with a big fence and bright lights that are designed to keep people in, not out, if you catch my drift. So far in my dealings with the followers of islam it has been my experience that perhaps the only real "effective" weapon against them would be thier religion itself. Anything else just doesn't seem like it would work too well. In dealing with these people I have found it to be like dealing with nothing more than little kids. Grown men with the mentality of 9 year olds. I would think that a few isolated instances of that may not be uncommon when you think about the environment that they're in, but when this is something all across the board that, to me, is significant. I have yet to have much experience with people outside my workplace so I tend to be a bit biased in my opinion of them, but my hope is that not everyone has the same mentality as the ones that I deal with. The mindset of anyone that I have dealt with up to this point (with a VERY few exceptions) is one of extreme ignorance and hard headedness. These people know nothing but religion, and it dictates their entire life. From dawn till dusk I hear nothing but the mullahs teaching their sermons of jihad against the infidels in the name of allah. I really hope that there are at least some residents of this region a bit more enlightened than these. To the point, an effective weapon: I had stated earlier that I believe their religion held the key. Unless I have misunderstood something, muslims believe that pig is an unclean animal. If they touch an unclean animal they are tainted and will not be able to enter heaven. Why not use this against them? Openly advertise that our bullets are coated in pig fat and that if an insurgent is struck by one he will be unclean and not fit to receive his reward of 40 virgins in heaven. I believe that this would effectively reduce, if not eliminate over time the number of people willing to risk their afterlife for their cause. I am currently researching this further as I beleive sometime in the late 19th century there was a similiar uprising in the region where this tactic was also used effectively. Can't remember for sure so I just want to double check. I am also currently looking into islam as a whole because if you know your enemy you can better know how to defeat him. The over riding fact though that I have come across in all my dealings so far is that muslims as a whole love death. America loves life. To them it is better to die in the name of allah than to live a long life. They don't care what it costs, in lives or time, so long as they kill as many as they can when they go, and it will never stop. Even the ones that I interact with are still constantly trying to find ways to kill us. Like I stated earlier, I'm new to the game and I'm still doing my research, but so far I really don't think there is a way to "win the hearts and minds" of these people. And they really don't give the desired response to the whole "give them a hug and hold their hand" routine being forced on me and my coworkers right now. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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