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I've often wondered why this hasnt come up here before.

Ron is legit, and used to come to the first LINES class taught during Phase II for each class. Really what he did was give his wolves vs sheep speech and a background of the system. Also his son Mike would come out and assist at training often. Mike was a Muchado BJJ purple belt, has trained with Ken Shamrock, and a competitive MMA fighter on the east coast last I spoke with him.

LINEs is a course that Ron developed while a hand to hand instructor in the USMC. SWC adopted his program in 97-98 I believe, and began sending instructors through the USMC course. When I left in 2003 the objective was to get all students that graduated the SFQC to be certified by Ron as instructors. While most of us disagreed with him at the time, the program continued. I dont know how well its played out.

My team used the POI to teach my G's in Iraq last year. More than anything it got them to be physical with each other. Techniqes were simple enough to to teach through a terp and for them to retain through repitition. When I left they were teaching the techniques to others in thier unit.

NDD, believe it or not SOME people show up at the Q-course as limp wristed as Clay Aikens. Everybody doesnt show up with a high school wrestling background and many of these kids have never been in a fight. The LINE system was easy to learn and TEACH, and required no resources to train. We also structured it in a way to be physicaly demanding and provide good PT during combatives. Obviously, if someone showed up with other skills then it didnt provide them with much.

When Ron retired he moved to Fayettville and opened up the school there. Now its on Yadkin at the old water slide property. The good thing is if you're in Group, TDY at school at Bragg, or have ever went through one of his courses you can train with them for free. He also lets your wives train there for free.

mp