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JJ_BPK 04-20-2018 06:36

What Beard?
 
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Posting for a friend..
:D

It looks like if you use religion, A beard is GTG??

The Bar has been set:

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Observant Sikhs and conservative Muslim women are now able to wear religious head coverings, thanks to a directive issued Tuesday that updates the Army's grooming and appearance regulation.

Sikh soldiers also are allowed to maintain their beards, according to the update.

Soldiers will still have to submit their requests for brigade-level approval, but the move opens up service to people who otherwise would have had to abandon cherished religious practices to serve.

Since 2009, religious accommodation requests received by the Army have largely been from soldiers wanting to wear a hijab or a Sikh turban or patka with uncut beard and hair, according to the directive.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...igious-beards/
SO, If you are of Norse lineage??
Don't be Loki...

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SKEGG: THE NORSE PAGAN BEARD

Beards are seen as sacred and as a defining feature of the Æsir in ancient texts such as Konungsbók Eddukvæða(c link). In addition, beards are likewise traditionally associated with men and masculinity throughout Norse history, as highlighted in Íslendingasögur (Icelandic Sagas), including the very significant Njáls saga, but also Eyrbyggja saga as well as Færeyinga saga and Völsunga saga. Beards are further even historically protected by law under Jónsbók, Grágás and Guta Lag.

Overall, beards are an essential and fundamental defining features of any Norðmaðr, Víkingr, Heathen, and ultimately, warrior’s identity. The beard is the one characteristic of those who otherwise follow Forn Siðr (Old Ways). Beards are in fact the true expression of spirituality, masculinity, and what it means to be Heathen. Beards define the Heathen man.
KONUNGSBÓK EDDUKVÆÐA:

A distinct and defining feature of the Æsir (also known as the Norse gods) is their beard.

All Norse gods, but one, are described in traditional and sacred texts, as well as illustrated throughout Norse history, as sporting a beard: Baldur (Beauty), Bragi (Poetry, music, harp), Forseti (Justice), Heimdallr (Guardian of Ásgarðr), Hermóðr (Messenger of the Æsir), Höðr (Darkness, winter), Hœnir (Silence, Óðr), Meili (Son of Óðinn), Móði (Anger) and Magni (Strength), Óðinn (Ássinn), Óðr (Spirituality, poetry, passion, battle frenzy, and sexual ecstasy), Þórr (Battle, thunder, men), Týr (War, skies), Ullr (Archery), Váli (Revenge), Vé (Creation/wisdom), Villi (Creation/will), and Víðarr (Forest, revenge, silence).

A notable exception is Loki (Mischief, lies). Loki is the least favorite of all Æsir, and a Norse god typically associated with negative behavior as well as the dark side of humans. Loki is is known to have wrecked havoc among the Æsir, even being responsible for the death of some of them, including Baldur.

Loki is also known for having turned himself into a mare in order to be impregnated by the stallion Svaðilfari, eventually giving birth to Sleipnir, Óðinn’s 8-legged horse. An event greatly frown upon in a culture that emphasizes gender polarization and strongly stigmatizes feminization of men.

From any perspective therefore, Loki is the very opposite of what a man should strive to be. Loki also happens to be the only Norse god without a beard. Therefore emphasizing the association between beard and manly virtues in Norse culture.

Numerous references in Konungsbók Eddukvæða, the most sacred text in Norse culture and religion, actually reinforce the association between beards and masculinity as well as virtue.

In Atlakviða (The Lay of Atli) specifically, a direct association is made between beards and warriors, with stanza 34 stating “Long-bearded, bold, the warriors entered”. In stanza 11, another connection is made between beard and wisdom, reading “The wolf shall rule the Niflungs' heritage, O bearded sages”.

From an Æsir and traditional Norse god perspective, a beard is therefore always associated with masculinity and virtue, including moral strength, manliness, valor, excellence, and worth, while the absence of a beard expresses feminization as well as depravity and immorality.


https://norskk.com/norse-beard

link to copy of Konungsbók Eddukvæða

Not sure if the attached letter is GTG??

BuckiBill 04-20-2018 10:39

I see a huge increase in the number of Norse Pagans in the near future.

JJ_BPK 04-20-2018 14:51

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“Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard” — Leviticus 19:27.
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To cut off another man's beard, according to Samuel (10:4) is an outrage.
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Bearded Gospel Men, a blog for Christian men with big beards
http://beardedgospelmen.com/
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Anabaptist Beard: The Amish consider the beard a sign of manhood. Only adult, married men wear beards (while shunning wedding rings). “They indicate respect for tradition, refusal to recognize changing fashions, and in general nonconformity to the world, all of which do have spiritual significance in the Amish world view,” scholar Steven D. Reschly told The New York Times. So when a breakaway sect of Amish in Ohio cut the beards of other Amish they disagreed with, they were charged with hate crimes.



There are choices.. :munchin

sfshooter 04-20-2018 17:26

I am guessing they get to pass the block in NBC training without participation?:p

doctom54 04-20-2018 17:55

I remember when Admiral Zumwalt in one of his famous “Z grams” authorized beards in the USN and beer dispensers in the barracks.
With the “Volunteer Army” we got a little rug and beer machines in the barracks but no beards.

PRB 04-20-2018 18:01

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Originally Posted by doctom54 (Post 642605)
I remember when Admiral Zumwalt in one of his famous “Z grams” authorized beards in the USN and beer dispensers in the barracks.
With the “Volunteer Army” we got a little rug and beer machines in the barracks but no beards.

Lol...I remember the VOLAR beer machines in the barracks....I think it was 25 cents a beer but could be wrong. I also think it was the 3.2 variety.

I also remember the Coca Cola dispenser that was put in the Mess Hall....the CSM stood by it the first day daring anyone to use it...no one did.

I get his point of view....some shit shouldn't happen.

This was in the day when officers did not eat in the Mess hall generally, NCO's did so in a screened section and there were DRO's.....

Remington Raidr 04-20-2018 18:12

I remember when I went to A school at NAS Meridian and the vending machines were all beer. I thought I really enlisted in the wrong branch!:)

Golf1echo 04-23-2018 13:46

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK (Post 642585)
Posting for a friend..
:D

It looks like if you use religion, A beard is GTG??

The Bar has been set:



SO, If you are of Norse lineage??
Don't be Loki...



link to copy of Konungsbók Eddukvæða

Not sure if the attached letter is GTG??

Those are some good Sagas, reading them would illustrate the same stories have been borrowed over and over again through out time...perhaps they borrowed some of their elements? Snuri Struluson' "The Prose Edda" is a good companion book as it translates the context behind some of the phrases and events. Loki is synonymous with trickery, deception, and devilry... Qualities not admired by the Norse. I have never seen him illustrated with a real beard.

JJ_BPK 04-26-2018 05:18

Army Times?? :lifter

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Army Times:

Your Army: A soldier just got authorization to wear a beard because of his Norse pagan faith, By: Meghann Myers   14 hours ago



When the Army authorized beards for religious soldiers in early 2017, the move was a response to years of requests — and a lawsuit — from Sikh soldiers seeking to both serve and adhere to the tenets of their faith.

But the directive, technically, applied to all religions.

And that includes Norse pagans, also known as heathens, according to an undated memo from the 14th Military Police Brigade at Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri.

“I grant your accommodation, subject to the standards and limitations described below,” commander Col. Curtis Shroeder wrote to a 795th Military Police Battalion soldier, whose name is redacted from a copy of the memo circulating on Facebook.

“In observance of your Heathen; Norse Pagan faith, you may wear a beard, in accordance with Army uniform and grooming standards for soldiers with approved religious accommodations.”


https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-...ium=Socialflow

rainstorm26 04-26-2018 06:42

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Originally Posted by JJ_BPK (Post 642757)
Army Times?? :lifter

Somebody here must have taken the suggestion to heart. He better braid that thing like a true Norseman.

Team Sergeant 04-26-2018 11:18

Laugh it up, you non-believers.

And what is today?

Thor'sday, (Thursday)

Google it.

You "believe" in your myths and I'll believe in mine. Now I've got a beard to trim.



:munchin

PRB 04-26-2018 16:56

A US soldier who worships the Norse thunder god Thor just got permission to keep his beard

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-so...18-4?r=UK&IR=T


Yup, start making concessions based upon non military requirements and this is the freakin stupid result....

The senior Officers that approve this shit should be shot.....dead dog dead.

Joker 04-26-2018 17:57

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Originally Posted by PRB (Post 642803)
A US soldier who worships the Norse thunder god Thor just got permission to keep his beard

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-so...18-4?r=UK&IR=T


Yup, start making concessions based upon non military requirements and this is the freakin stupid result....

The senior Officers that approve this shit should be shot.....dead dog dead.

Spoken just like an old school CSM. :lifter

Yes, CSM, I know you are a CSM.


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