Medical Marijuana Cardholders to Surrender Their Firearms
 

This one I like........ stupid potheads.






Honolulu Police Order Medical Marijuana Cardholders to Surrender Their Firearms

by AWR Hawkins29 Nov 2017

KITV reports that Honolulu police are doing this via letters to cardholders demanding they “surrender weapons, permits, and ammunition to HPD or to transfer ownership.”
On November 28 The Honolulu Star reported that police have been sending letters throughout the year and the one dated November 13 was signed by HPD chief Susan Ballard. It says, “Your medical marijuana use disqualifies you from ownership of firearms and ammunition.”

Ballard points to Hawaii Revised Statutes, Section 134-7 (a), which says, “No person who is a fugitive from justice or is a person prohibited from possessing firearms or ammunition under federal law shall own, possess, or control any firearm or ammunition therefor.”

On August 31, 2016, Breitbart News reported that the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled that a ban on gun ownership for medical marijuana users is constitutional. The decision was based on the fact that marijuana use remains illegal on the federal level, whether state-sanctioned or not. This means medical marijuana cardholders cannot pass background check form 4473 and, therefore, cannot legally purchase a firearm.
Form 4473 asks if the would-be firearm purchaser is “an unlawful user of…marijuana.” No one who answers “yes” to that question can purchase a gun.


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http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nder-firearms/

As long as pot is on the federal nark list,,
you can't sign an ATF E-Form 4473 (5300.9),,, without lying..

https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

Question 11.e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

A similar problem is "pending" for vets that get the VA to give them service connected PTSD.. When you ask the VA doctors to "adjudicate",, you're screwed..

11.f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution? (See Instructions for Question 11.f)

The pot question can easily be removed.. If I can drink a beer, what's the dif??...

The PTSD should not be altered.

PTSD as defined by NIMH

Interesting Catch-22. They are ok if you smoke marijuana but NOT if you also own a firearm.

F^&* them!

I’m a free man and will do either or both as I decide.

But guns and booze are just fine!

...booze IS a problem - but no one would try to take guns from an alcoholic without precedent


Now, once they take away a potheads guns - let it simmer for a few weeks to see if there are any court cases filed in protest - they can come after the guns of those with booze.


Liberals aren't going to outlaw guns. Its too hard to get a good enough hold on the rope while you are trying to dig your feet in...

No siree Bob... liberals will outlaw YOU. They CANT outlaw guns because it will keep guns away from ANTIFA and the other violent liberal groups they rely on to instill fear in the populace. They will outlaw lead and pistol grips and bayonet lugs and free speech.

But weed is a victimless crime so lets change the subject and jail these dangerous drugged out gun toting crazy people.

PTSD
 

PTSD is the next shoe to drop.

Is it a mental issue/illness?

How many are PTSD frauds? Say 90%.

And that 90% are keeping a hundred thousand shrinks in BMW's.

Take them.

The VA spent 8.5 BILLION for PTSD between 2010 - 2012..

Wonder how much they would hand out if they prefaced the comp with mandatory gun confiscation??


PTSD is real, for some vets,, and they need the help.
For many others,, it's a welfare check.. :mad:

The VA is a federal service and as such has to follow federal law which my agency controls. No matter how much they want the DEA has to approve it and as of yesterday they have no intent to do so. This is why medical MJ is a sticker issue and every doctor that jumps on the medical MJband wagon is at risk of losing their license and capability to prescribe medicine. Currently no Pharmacy’s can dispense medical MJ as they to would lose their licenses and thus you have private businesses popping up in the states to do this.

It is funny that Wednesday during a meeting with our local ATF counterparts for a case I asked them if they were the reason the letters being sent in HI to turn in their firearms and ammo. They swore that they have not initiated this and the local PD came up with it in HI. Also the PD has access to the records for the cards because they are under the same state department from what I heard. That seams convenient that HI would put the program under the same arm of the state government.

Kinda blows the conspiracy nuts that the ATF and big Gov are behind this pulling the strings of the local PD.......

:munchin

That’s not true. Check your state’s law on possession, discharge or carriage of a firearm while under the influence of alcohol. Not all states do and those that do have different criteria and levels to have committed a violation; either misdemeanor or felony.

There are federal and state clauses banning habitual abusers and clinically diagnosed alcoholics from possessing firearms too but, who’s enforcing those laws?

There are literally thousands of gun laws in the books, so many in fact that none of them will ever prevent even law abiding citizens from breaking several each and every day they grab their gun and leave the house. There are probably laws that are broken while in your house and not in possession of your owned firearms.

In Texas I would lose my License to Carry if I were under the influence while carrying.

In Wisconsin you can CC and sit in a bar, but you cannot consume any liquor. I suppose carrying and drinking don't mix.