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TacOfficer 09-21-2016 20:23

Talon Grips
 
I used the search box and could not find any reference to talon grips.

I just received talon grips (rubber) for my G19 and G17. I'm impressed by the simplicity and perceived improvement. Especially like the way it does not add much to the circumference of the grip unlike hogue.

Anyone here have experience with them in particular, good or bad?

http://talongungrips.com/

Any input is appreciated.

Peregrino 09-22-2016 07:22

Ultrasonic cleaners and spray solvents are no longer your friends.

The Reaper 09-22-2016 08:13

I have them, and like them.

I did not care for the "skate tape" version, and prefer the other, less abrasive grip material.

After exposure to solvents, etc, they may eventually require replacement, but then again, they don't cost more than $20 per set.

I have not had any come off during cleaning, but I haven't put any pistol lowers or frames that I have the Talon grips on into a solvent or ultrasonic tank, either.

I think they are worth it.

TR

Old Dog New Trick 09-22-2016 09:17

It said not to cut the finger wraps just tuck them under. I found that not only uncomfortable but continued to create small gaps between the side panel and each strip. After cutting them to length and pressing everything together I'm much more satisfied. (Rubber compound)

DinDinA-2 09-22-2016 09:50

I prefer "Rescue Tape". Grippy enough, and thin. Not real pretty but works.

TacOfficer 09-22-2016 09:57

I truly appreciate the feedback.

I've put them on my G19 that I use for EDC with a crossbreed holster and it also has mitigated the chaffing from the gen 4 grip

I'll consider cutting the finger straps and staying away from solvents and ultrasonic tanks. I understand how those issues would develop.

Thank you gentlemen!

:lifter

TFA303 09-22-2016 10:48

How much do the side panels contribute to the security of your hold on the pistol, as opposed to the front and backstraps?

It seems that the sides have much less contact with my hand, but much of the effort at improving grips seems to be expended on the sides, so I well may be missing something (or holding my pistol wrong...).

The Reaper 09-22-2016 11:09

The Talon grips wrap completely around the pistol's grip.

See the web site for pics and a better explanation.

TR

Old Dog New Trick 09-22-2016 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFA303 (Post 616905)
How much do the side panels contribute to the security of your hold on the pistol, as opposed to the front and backstraps?

It seems that the sides have much less contact with my hand, but much of the effort at improving grips seems to be expended on the sides, so I well may be missing something (or holding my pistol wrong...).

Huh? :munchin

Yes, I think you might be holding your pistol wrong, but to be honest it doesn't seem like a lot of pressure is exerted on the side panels which is why some people use additional levels of sometimes tacky or abrasive materials - like skateboard tape. Other times it's to increase the girth of the grip for a better fit - especially for those with large hands.

The front strap is largely the area where recoil control is established and the rear strap is contoured to provide a proper hand/wrist (natural) alignment. The sides fill in the gaps and provide an erea for the palm and palm heel of the support hand. Yep, it's not much.

TacOfficer 09-22-2016 19:32

Since we are on the topic of modification, I've come across the company ATEI.
Just out of curiosity, is there a practical reason to modify the slide of a Glock 19?

I have no practical experience, just training for the contingency, but it appears a bit excessive for the purpose.

35NCO 09-23-2016 10:05

I do not understand all the mass reduction and milling that these companies are doing to slides. To look cool? Race gun? It really messes with durability and allowing more grime and dirt to get into the gun. Cutting up slides is reasonable for show and competition I suppose (insert list of engineering problems), but I would not want to change my EDC that much.

For grips, I either use the good old bicycle tube cut as a band, or if a polymer frame I will (carefully) stipple with a soldering iron.

I have used grip tape on 1911s and M9s without a front strap before and had some success. It was a nice retrofit that was removable and also fit under the native grips edges for a clean look. They don't last very long though.

Patrin 09-24-2016 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TacOfficer (Post 616898)
I truly appreciate the feedback.

I've put them on my G19 that I use for EDC with a crossbreed holster and it also has mitigated the chaffing from the gen 4 grip

I'll consider cutting the finger straps and staying away from solvents and ultrasonic tanks. I understand how those issues would develop.

Thank you gentlemen!

:lifter

TO, the talon grips are a good product, but like anything that 'sticks', they will peel eventually. In the summer heat of FL, with sweat constantly on the talon grips, they simply haven't lasted for me, and nor has 3M skateboard tape.

With spray solvents for cleaning, I don't know how it can be avoided.

I don't shoot Glocks, but I love the Gen 4 texture and it's tackiness. Great all weather grip.

With my HK's, I've turned to stippling, silicone carbide (where appropriate) or these for when comfortable carry is a concern (deep concealment); http://gearward.com/collections/fron...ucts/gripbands

TacOfficer 09-24-2016 18:20

No. 1 I would love to have an HK. But alas my department is only authorized striker fired pistoles from glock, Springfield and S & W. not a happy camper about that. I have a Sig P220 DAK that I was able to have grandfathered in, but da/sa is a no go.
Give me a moment while I finish crying.....Ok I'm better now,

No 2. As for the Talons, been using ever since I've got them and they seem to mold more so to the grip. Winter is coming to the north, and I don't expect heat to be an issue for the next 9 months. 😀

I will keep an eye on them, but in the mean time the cost/benefit appears reasonable.

TO

Redwood 09-24-2016 21:48

I have the rubberized Talon grips on my Glock 19 (3rd gen) and on my M&P Shield. I carry the Shield daily about nine months out of the year and I'll transition the Glock in during the slightly cooler months when I can dress in heavier clothing (Florida).

While I do really like the increased tackiness that the grips provide and that it does not cling to my clothing, or irritate my skin like the sandpaper ones surely would, I've noticed that after only a short amount of time, the pieces around the backstrap are slightly peeling off.

I can press them back on and they stay for a bit, but they peel again a short time later. It hasn't peeled enough that it's really become a problem with gripping the firearm, but it's a bit annoying. I've been meaning to add adhesive to the pieces, but haven't done it yet.

In fairness, the weather causes a swamp of sweat that must shorten the lifespan of the grips. Additionally, while I rubbed the pistol grip down with lots of alcohol, I should have used a brush to really get the alcohol in all the cracks and crevices.

For the price, not a bad product at all. I didn't expect a permanent solution without needing a replacement, but I think in less hot weather and with better prep before install, the Talon Grips would last longer.

I've also used Agrip in the past and liked the feel a lot, but it is also far from being permanent.

Old Dog New Trick 09-24-2016 22:21

Have you tried or did you use a hair dryer or heat gun per the instructions? Not much mind you it's a plastic gun but I found that it improved the stickiness of the grip to gun surface.


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