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CryptKeeper 05-14-2015 22:54

The Secret World of a Green Beret
 
http://www.nytimes.com/1982/07/04/ma...een-beret.html

While conducting a little research on SF history in Vietnam, and specifically MACV-SOG, I stumbled upon this rather interesting article from 1982, which makes quite a number of extraordinary claims, especially in regard to the operations in Thailand, Cambodia, and Libya.

Quote:

Thompson never returned to Latin America, but he reported that two years later several of his fellow Green Berets secretly took part in the capture and killing of Che Guevara, the Cuban revolutionary leader. Thompson's description of the operation in Bolivia was confirmed by another former Green Beret who was a participant, and by former Defense Department and intelligence officials who were involved. All of them asked not to be identified.
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Next, Thompson was ordered to join a covert operation in Thailand run by the Army and the C.I.A. Supervised by the MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam-Special Operations Group), the mission involved the training of Thai special-forces teams, followed by their deployment with Green Berets to interdict the Ho Chi Minh trail.
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He described the work when he talked to Thompson but he did not reveal that he had been dismissed several weeks earlier because he had assisted the former agents Wilson and Terpil in obtaining explosive timers for shipment to Libya. Wilson and Terpil, it was later discovered, had signed an agreement with Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi to help train terrorists.
With that being said...

Do any QP's from that era have any comments regarding the substantive nature of the claims made in the article?

BMT (RIP) 05-15-2015 01:31

Most sounds like BULL SHIT!!

BMT

JJ_BPK 05-15-2015 03:22

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Originally Posted by BMT (Post 583059)
Most sounds like BULL SHIT!!

BMT

Or A script for a seal team 6 movie,, The Expendables XII?? :lifter

Butt POTUS was Jimmy Carter.


:D

Old Dog New Trick 05-15-2015 03:26

Me thinks he's probably BFF with Dick-head Marc_inko. Both can apparently weave a fictional story surrounded by unsubstantiated non-fictional facts.

I think the the U.S. Government (aka CIA) can only claim credit for one 20th Century assassination or complicity: Mohammad Mosaddegh, Iran, 1953. That has turned out so well...

But then what the hell I do I know. I stared at goats, sometimes all night long. :p

MR2 05-15-2015 03:35

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 583062)
I stared at goats, sometimes all night long. :p

Is that some kind of muslim porn?

Old Dog New Trick 05-15-2015 03:39

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 583064)
Is that some kind of muslim porn?

Ha! Only if it would sell a book or make a movie. :D

Joker 05-15-2015 04:23

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Originally Posted by MR2 (Post 583064)
Is that some kind of muslim porn?

Derka, derka?

Reference Che, there is plenty of information out there how he met his demise. Yes SF had a "hand" or two in it.

x SF med 05-15-2015 04:27

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Originally Posted by Old Dog New Trick (Post 583062)
...
But then what the hell I do I know. I stared at goats, sometimes all night long. :p


Yeah.... all night, all day, for weeks on end. They called it training. :mad:

And then there was the Trojan Warrior Program.....:eek:

SFOC0173 05-15-2015 04:58

MACV-SOG (Military Assistance Command, Vietnam-Special Operations Group),
He did not even get this one right.

Scimitar 05-15-2015 05:07

"The Secret World of a Green Beret"

I'm imagining a kids cartoon, where the
"Garry the Green Beret",
comes alive each night and slips off of Staff Sergeant Jackson's night stand,
to conduct covert ops against the evil empire of the "Civilian Clothes Overlords"...

...actually not a bad idea....do I get Executive Producer Credits. ;)

S

Trapper John 05-15-2015 05:46

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Originally Posted by x SF med (Post 583068)
Yeah.... all night, all day, for weeks on end. They called it training. :mad:

And then there was the Trojan Warrior Program.....:eek:

I was just going too say....but, you beat me to it. :p

As to the article, BS seasoned with a couple of irrelevant facts to lend credibility (what Old Dog said). And he couldn't even get MACVSOG correct. :rolleyes:

Richard 05-15-2015 07:18

Pappy Shelton's team from the 8th SFGA was responsible for training and advising the Bolivian troops that ran Che to ground. Veritas, the USASOC Office of the Historian quarterly pub, had an issue several years ago dedicated to the 8th SFGA and that mission. Their team set up a training camp in the heart of Che's GWOA and was in the process of training the second Bolivian Ranger battalion when the 1st battalion ended Che's campaign.

The original mission of the 46th SF Co included a number of personnel with SOG experience for training Thai forces as described - the mission changed several times during the unit's existence in Thailand.

And so it goes...

Richard

Flying Jibe 05-15-2015 18:47

I happened to be reading Inside the Green Berets (1983) by Charles M. Simpson III when this thread came up and wanted to call attention to it. If anyone is interested in learning more about the events above, and many others like them in Special Forces history, I would highly recommend picking up this book if you haven't already.

Simpson focuses on covering first 30 years of Special Forces history including those operations of the 46th SFC(A) in Thailand. It is an eye opening account of the diverse and widespread actions of SF that go unnoticed by most. It certainly gave me a greater appreciation for the work that SF does in the far corners of the world.

ISBN: 978-0425091463

Team Sergeant 05-17-2015 13:35

The Secret World of a Green Beret

I thought it would be an article detailing all the places we've buried bodies..... (whew)

PRB 05-17-2015 14:42

You guys go ahead on...I need to keep my secrets secret.....:)


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