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JJ_BPK 12-09-2014 05:58

When will the F-35 Madness Stop??
 
Someone with some testicle fortitude has to stop the madness.

This plane is a complete failure..


Quote:

Luke AFB changes refueling truck color, mitigates F-35 shutdowns, By Staff Sgt. Luther Mitchell Jr., 56th Fighter Wing Public Affairs / Published December 06, 2014

LUKE AIR FORCE BASE, Ariz. (AFNS) -- The 56th Logistics Readiness Squadron recently added a new fuel truck to its fleet designed to improve mission effectiveness and safety on the flightline.

However, it’s not really a new fuel truck, but an old fuel truck with its tank painted white.

What LRS Airmen once referred to as "Big Green," the “new” truck with a white fuel tank has been a little difficult for some to get used to; however, the change has a better purpose then just being aesthetically pleasing.

"We painted the refuelers white to reduce the temperature of fuel being delivered to the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter," said Senior Airman Jacob Hartman, a 56th LRS fuels distribution operator. "The F-35 has a fuel temperature threshold and may not function properly if the fuel temperature is too high, so after collaborating with other bases and receiving waiver approval from (the Air Education Training Command), we painted the tanks white."

With the change, the 56th LRS hopes for no delay in aircraft take-offs, all while maintaining mission sorties and ensuring pilots meet training requirements.

"It ensures the F-35 is able to meet its sortie requirements," said Chief Master Sgt. Ralph Resch, the 56th LRS fuels manager. "We are taking proactive measures to mitigate any possible aircraft shutdowns due to high fuel temperatures in the future."


http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDispla...shutdowns.aspx


Streck-Fu 12-09-2014 06:22

We could just put an ice cube in the Air Force's sippie cup.....

blacksmoke 12-09-2014 07:36

How's the white tank going keep fuel cooler in the middle east or Africa?

Streck-Fu 12-09-2014 09:03

Maybe using the fuel system as a heat sink for the avionics was not such a great idea.....

Team Sergeant 12-09-2014 09:05

There's no way you're going to stop the F-35, even if it's a complete failure.

Luke AFB would shut down and Senator McCain would look like an idiot, oh, ok, more of an idiot.

The Reaper 12-09-2014 10:38

The F-35 is a great CAS platform as long as all you need is one pass or strafing run (insufficient ammo storage for more than one) at twice the speed and twice the altitude of the Warthog with a damn sight less survivability.

After they lose the first couple doing CAS, they will keep them above 10,000' and for all intents and purposes, the AF CAS mission will be over.

TR

PSM 12-09-2014 10:50

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Let us compare.

BTW, the AF drivers say that it will not have CCIP (Constantly Computed Impact Point) capability, which may not be a good thing when it comes to CAS. Just saying. ;)

Pat

geardo211 12-09-2014 10:58

Excerpt from 2015 National Defense Authorization Act... It also appears they're letting the Guard keep their Apaches. Interesting read to say the least. Unfortunately they're throwing another 5.8 Billion at the JSF. :eek:

Quote:

-Prohibits the Air Force from retiring or preparing to retire any A-10 or Airborne Warning and Control Aircraft (AWACS), or making any significant changes in manning levels in FY15.

-Increases A-10 Operations and Maintenance funding by $256.5 million and AWACS Operations and Maintenance funding by $34.6 million.

http://www.armed-services.senate.gov...2005-23-14.pdf

TacOfficer 12-09-2014 10:58

Aside from the a-10 platform and the Flying PS4. (Aka F-35), I agree completely, listen to those that depend on it. If it ain't broke.........

At least, some enterprising individual came up with a cheap and possibly effective way to cool the fuel. I would have expected the AF to redesign and build a liquid nitrogen, super cooled, bells and whistles pick-up with a fuel tank for 2 million a piece.

BTW WTF: This new wiz bang mega million toy has no tolerance for the temp of fuel. It's like a kid saying "My soup is too hot!" It is beyond my comprehension.

Ambush Master 12-09-2014 11:09

So how cool will the Fuel be while sitting iside the Flat Black/Grey AIRCRAFT?!?! Do they have Refrigeration units to keep it cool?!?! I don't believe they are using the Fuel Tanks as Heat Sinks.

Later
Martin

Ambush Master 12-09-2014 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 569728)
Not if the oxygen system keeps malfunctioning. They will have to stay low.

Let me see they keep harping the future is LIC yet they build a fighter to fight WWIII. Granted I have no issue upgrading our fighter fleet, but lets at least get a good platform not an unreliable POS. Oh yea, during WWIII we will probably need CAS as well. Well what the hell do I know I don't work in the pentagon.

I thought the only O2 issue was with the F22 and not the F35.

Later
Martin

The Reaper 12-09-2014 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambush Master (Post 569733)
I thought the only O2 issue was with the F22 and not the F35.

Later
Martin

Concur.

I have not seen any reports of F-35 O2 issues.

Just the F-22.

TR


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