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Pete 10-08-2014 19:30
Polaris DAGOR ultra-light truck ready for combat
 
Polaris DAGOR ultra-light truck ready for combat

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/...d=cmty_plus_fn

"U.S. Special Forces will soon be riding into battle in a race-bred truck.

The Polaris DAGOR is a compact military machine that uses a trophy truck-style suspension for extreme off-road capability and was developed in partnership with Roush Industries of NASCAR fame.

The purpose-built military machine is about the size of a four-door Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, but can fit up to nine warfighters onboard: four in the cabin, four in the bed, and a roof gunner positioned in a sling seat suspended from the roll cage...."

Hmmmm

The Reaper 10-08-2014 20:08
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 564928)
What is wrong with a Toyota 4x4 pickup with a 50 or MK19 mounted in the bed.
It doesn't cost $150,000.

TR

miclo18d 10-09-2014 05:35
So my question is, where do you put the ammo, the med bags, litters/backboards, the radios, batteries, mortar, water, food, rucksacks, etc?

I'm not sure but I don't see a turret for the M2. Am I missing something?

I hope it is solar powered too, I wouldn't want our soldiers to endanger some foreign country's environment! Think of the children!

Pete 10-09-2014 06:10
Last picture
 
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Originally Posted by miclo18d (Post 564952)
...I'm not sure but I don't see a turret for the M2. Am I missing something?...
Last picture shows the little sling seat.

About the same size as a Hummer and shocked up like that dune buggy thingy from the 1980's. That could hold four - but crowded when you added all the gear.

MtnGoat 10-09-2014 07:08
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 564928)
What is wrong with a Toyota 4x4 pickup with a 50 or MK19 mounted in the bed.
Just read Roughneck 91 book, and you will learn.

It's not all about on theater, the vision has to be global as far as a fighting vehicle.

Now UW wise, local vehicle every time.

mark46th 10-09-2014 08:07
Looking at the pictures, armor for the gunner is the guy on either side of him with body armor and all the gear packed in around them.

The Reaper 10-09-2014 09:18
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 564971)
I was being a bit sarcastic in my comment.

So all kidding aside here is a thought. One of the lessons of WWII was in a tank any one using the MG was exposed and caused a lot of casualties so after WWII notice all tanks ie M-47, M-48, M-60 had a coupla to hide in while firing the MG. The Abrams is the first US tank to not have one.
That is what the coax MG is for.

This beast should, at least theoretically, have much better off road speed and mobility than a Toyota. Speed is security. The more armor you add, the slower the vehicle will go.

I don't know too many SF guys who would rather be patrolling in MRAPs.

IIRC, this was designed to fit in a MH-47 as well.

TR

Golf1echo 10-09-2014 18:41
This gives me a chance to ask about a sentence Polaris used to describe the DARGOR, now I like Polaris and I can see the different mission sets they are working on. " Soldiers in the UCLV will be protected from kinetic threats by their Personal Protective Equipment and will rely on speed and maneuverability to avoid threats". Perhaps something so obvious shouldn't need to be mentioned as and end user might not see the pros in it...:confused:
Here is the source: http://soldiersystems.net/category/mobility/

PokemonMaster 10-12-2014 13:04
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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 564971)
I was being a bit sarcastic in my comment.

So all kidding aside here is a thought. One of the lessons of WWII was in a tank any one using the MG was exposed and caused a lot of casualties so after WWII notice all tanks ie M-47, M-48, M-60 had a coupla to hide in while firing the MG. The Abrams is the first US tank to not have one.

Fast forward to 2001 conflicts and as ya'll know gunners made up hillbilly armor to protect themselves from gun fire because just like WWII they were exposed.

So my question is, Where is the damn coupla for the gunner? You just as well be in a toyota 4x4 as a gunner because you get no more protection in this damn thing than a Toyota!.
You can't fire from inside in an Abrams? In the Stryker you can fire from the inside using a little tv and a joystick.

The Reaper 10-12-2014 14:32
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Originally Posted by PokemonMaster (Post 565210)
You can't fire from inside in an Abrams? In the Stryker you can fire from the inside using a little tv and a joystick.
The coax M240 is operated from inside the tank alongside the main gun.

The Loader's M240 is operated outside the tank.

Original M1s and M1A1s had a remotely operated M-2 .50 BMG, but the M1A2 needed the space for upgraded Tank Commander optics. The M1A2 TUSK is supposed to restore the remote operating capability to the TC's M-2 BMG.

The main gun is obviously operated from inside the tank.

TR


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