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Synsei 07-20-2014 11:24

Did the SFAS ruck weight change?
 
QPs,

Has the ruck weight for SFAS been decreased since 1999/2000? I could have sworn that back then we were advised to train with 100lbs (excluding water), as opposed to 45-65lbs that I see recommended now. I've tried to refrain from starting a new thread (posting in general, really) but it's starting to make me question what I thought I knew/remembered.

Again, I apologize in advance if this has been asked, but I was not able to find an answer here or on The Google. My thought is that since this site was created in 2004, there probably weren't very many discussion on SFAS prior to then.

On a side note, this is the longest I've ever stared at the "Submit New Thread" button.

Ask or Cast.

Thanks,
C

Snaquebite 07-20-2014 11:31

Did you also stare at the search button and not use it? This question is explained more times than I can count with a couple of simple searches.

PM Sent

Synsei 07-20-2014 12:26

Thank you.

-C

The Reaper 07-20-2014 13:57

I was at SWCS for my second tour starting in 2001 and we never advised candidates to train with that much weight.

It breaks people down and gets them hurt.

TR

WarriorDiplomat 07-21-2014 04:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synsei (Post 557411)
QPs,

Has the ruck weight for SFAS been decreased since 1999/2000? I could have sworn that back then we were advised to train with 100lbs (excluding water), as opposed to 45-65lbs that I see recommended now. I've tried to refrain from starting a new thread (posting in general, really) but it's starting to make me question what I thought I knew/remembered.

Again, I apologize in advance if this has been asked, but I was not able to find an answer here or on The Google. My thought is that since this site was created in 2004, there probably weren't very many discussion on SFAS prior to then.

On a side note, this is the longest I've ever stared at the "Submit New Thread" button.

Ask or Cast.

Thanks,
C


I went during that time I believe the most I carried was 45 without water and during the STAR it was roughly 85-90 together with the radios MRE's etc....

I did see a recommended train up hand out that had a 5x100lb ruck squats program on it I used, I do not remember ever seeing anything recommending 100lb ruck marches I believe the train up weight most recommended was 55-65lbs.

CDRODA396 07-21-2014 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 557422)
..... never advised candidates to train with that much weight.

It breaks people down and gets them hurt.

TR

Exactly. Toughen your body not crush it.

blue02hd 07-21-2014 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synsei (Post 557411)
QPs,

I could have sworn that back then we were advised to train with 100lbs (excluding water), as opposed to 45-65lbs that I see recommended now.
Thanks,
C

Just curious, but who advised this??

Synsei 07-21-2014 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Reaper (Post 557422)
I was at SWCS for my second tour starting in 2001 and we never advised candidates to train with that much weight.

It breaks people down and gets them hurt.

TR

Got it. Thank you, TR, for the response.


Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat (Post 557459)
I went during that time I believe the most I carried was 45 without water and during the STAR it was roughly 85-90 together with the radios MRE's etc....

I did see a recommended train up hand out that had a 5x100lb ruck squats program on it I used, I do not remember ever seeing anything recommending 100lb ruck marches I believe the train up weight most recommended was 55-65lbs.

If I recall, my class was the last one before they started doing the Trek and I thought I remembered thinking that the weight had gone down back then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue02hd (Post 557462)
Just curious, but who advised this??

A hand out maybe? I was going over it on the flight from Ft. Hood to Bragg and the guy sitting next to me asked if I had really done all of the training in the material I was reading. Turns out he was SF. I said yes. Then he gave me his number and said "If you get selected, call me. If you don't get selected...don't fuckin' call me." Long story short, I tossed the handout and his number so I can't reference the handout.

My memory is most likely flawed in terms of the ruck weight, but I appreciate all of your responses. I've started training again with a much different mindset than I had as a young soldier.

Thanks again,
-C

WarriorDiplomat 07-21-2014 14:55

They have done STAR since the beginning of SFAS in the 80's. SFAS changes every so often just like all phases but the constant was the STAR land Nav I think you are thinking about team week that went away in the early 2000's replaced by the trek.

The weight has not changed before or since if any the weight of 65 was your packing list weight more if you were a bigger guy, Radio and 6 quarts of water and 3 MRE's

I don't remember carrying 100lbs during SUT either but today students will carry upwards of 110 for patrols which is much heavier than Ranger School.

Synsei 07-21-2014 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarriorDiplomat (Post 557500)
They have done STAR since the beginning of SFAS in the 80's. SFAS changes every so often just like all phases but the constant was the STAR land Nav I think you are thinking about team week that went away in the early 2000's replaced by the trek.

Ah yes, I miss-spoke. The Trek is what it was called, not STAR.


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