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LarryW 06-20-2014 21:31

Ebola: "Out of Control in West Africa"
 
The tragedy which is Iraq and the threat that is ISIS may soon bow to a much bigger elephant in the room. This may be a greater threat.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...reak/11110943/

Ebola called 'out of control' in West Africa
By Michael Winter, USA TODAY

" The deadliest-ever outbreak of the Ebola virus has surged in West Africa after slowing briefly, and the pandemic is now "out of control," according to Doctors Without Borders.

Nearly 600 infections and 340 Ebola-related deaths have been recorded in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, the most since the virus was discovered in the Democratic Republic of Congo and Sudan almost 40 years ago, the World Health Organization said this week. There's no cure or vaccine for the highly contagious disease, which has mortality rate of up to 90%.

"The reality is clear that the epidemic is now in a second wave," Bart Janssens, the medical charity's operations director, told the Associated Press on Friday. "And, for me, it is totally out of control."

He criticized the WHO and African governments for not doing more to contain the outbreak and to thoroughly trace everyone who has had contact with the sick or the dead.

"There needs to be a real political commitment that this is a very big emergency," he said. "Otherwise, it will continue to spread, and for sure it will spread to more countries."

As of Friday, the WHO was not recommending any travel or trade restrictions to the three countries.

"We think that the situation can be controlled with the measures that are being vigorously implemented," Francis Kasolo, the director for disease prevention and control at the WHO's regional office in Republic of Congo, told the German broadcaster Deutsche Welle.

The virus, one of the world's most virulent, is transmitted by contact with the blood, fluids or tissues of infected animals or people. It causes high fever, vomiting, muscle pain and diarrhea, and can result in unstoppable internal bleeding and organ failure.

Transmission risk is especially high among doctors, nurses and other health care workers.

The latest outbreak began in January or December in the forests of southeastern Guinea and spread to urban areas. Guinea has been the hardest hit, with 264 deaths recorded by Wednesday. Sierra Leone has reported 49 deaths and Liberia 24.

"This is the highest outbreak on record and has the highest number of deaths, so this is unprecedented so far," Armand Sprecher, a public health specialist with Doctors Without Borders, told the AP.

Sierra Leone has stepped up measures to prevent and contain the disease, the country's health minister said Thursday.

In Liberia, nurses fearful over the Ebola death of a colleague abandoned a hospital in New Kru Town, forcing it to close. During a solidarity visit to the hospital Tuesday, President Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf declared the outbreak a national emergency. "

Flagg 06-21-2014 03:44

I''m no epidemiologist, but I'm guessing Ebola simply burns far too quickly and doesn't transmit well enough to be a global or even major regional threat.

But it's certainly yet another warning indicator of the very real risk and near inevitability of a truly global viral fire that could burn a significant percentage of monkeys off this rock via 1st and 2nd order effects.

It makes me hope that the likes of DARPA, CDC, and DHS are coordinating and investing in rapid/real-time mass testing for air travel.

Instead of looking at my junk on a scanner maybe they should be checking if Passengers are ticking viral bombs.

Trapper John 06-21-2014 05:52

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Originally Posted by Flagg (Post 554909)
I''m no epidemiologist, but I'm guessing Ebola simply burns far too quickly and doesn't transmit well enough to be a global or even major regional threat.

But it's certainly yet another warning indicator of the very real risk and near inevitability of a truly global viral fire that could burn a significant percentage of monkeys off this rock via 1st and 2nd order effects.

It makes me hope that the likes of DARPA, CDC, and DHS are coordinating and investing in rapid/real-time mass testing for air travel.

Instead of looking at my junk on a scanner maybe they should be checking if Passengers are ticking viral bombs.

Ebola, although highly virulent, contagious, and lethal it is not transmissible like influenza (low infectivity rate). Ebola requires direct contact with infected bodily fluids, like HIV. Containment measures will prevent widespread spread of this disease. At highest risk are the health-care workers.

LarryW 06-23-2014 21:45

It's getting worse...
 
If any travel is necessary into the West Africa areas please take precautions.

Greatest respects for the comments below, but still ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flagg View Post
I''m no epidemiologist, but I'm guessing Ebola simply burns far too quickly and doesn't transmit well enough to be a global or even major regional threat.

But it's certainly yet another warning indicator of the very real risk and near inevitability of a truly global viral fire that could burn a significant percentage of monkeys off this rock via 1st and 2nd order effects.

It makes me hope that the likes of DARPA, CDC, and DHS are coordinating and investing in rapid/real-time mass testing for air travel.

Instead of looking at my junk on a scanner maybe they should be checking if Passengers are ticking viral bombs.

(Posted by Trapper John) Ebola, although highly virulent, contagious, and lethal it is not transmissible like influenza (low infectivity rate). Ebola requires direct contact with infected bodily fluids, like HIV. Containment measures will prevent widespread spread of this disease. At highest risk are the health-care workers.
Just be damned careful, y'all.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/23/health...html?hpt=hp_t1

Trapper John 06-24-2014 05:41

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 555136)
What are the chances of something like this morphing into something that has a higher infectivity rate? I understand viruses tend to adapt over time sometimes quickly. Is it holiweird fantasy to think this may turn to something that is worse?

I'm not a virologist nor a gene jockey, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :D So my short answer is - "I don't have a f'n clue" :p

My guess is though, it's going to be a rare event and hard for this virus to naturally mutate. I say that because their is no driving force to do so and there are fewer opportunities. We are talking about a zoonotic disease that is quite well adapted to its primary host. A deliberate contact (monkeys as a food source) with a closely related species was the only reason Ebola emerged in humans. This is not at all like a swine or avian virus adapting to an unrelated species to find a new host.

Of greater concern to me is the intentional mutation to make Ebola transmissible via the airborne route, to survive outside a host for longer periods of time, increase the prodromal period (lag time between infection and outbreak of symptoms), etc.

There are folks operating in this AO that would have such intentions and could acquire the capability. That's the greater threat IMO.

BrokenSwitch 06-27-2014 00:47

Someone's been reading too much Tom Clancy (Executive Orders and Rainbow Six).

With that said... I suppose some of his ideas were prescient.

DJ Urbanovsky 07-31-2014 14:20

The White House says it's not a threat, and will be continuing plans to host a three day summit of African leaders. Meanwhile, the CDC has this to say about the Ebola:

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/...g/ebola-guinea

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/.../ebola-liberia

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/...a-sierra-leone

And then they published this:

http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/ma...-airlines.html

But it's not a threat, right?


I'm no medic, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, but I do know that Ebola is incredibly virulent, and is present in all of the host's bodily fluids and excretions. Including sweat. Sweat!

I'm not trying to be alarmist here, but this is kind of a big deal. UK and US residents (aid workers) have already been infected and are dead.

Usually an outbreak starts in the hinterlands, and burns itself out quickly. This time, it started in major population centers, and hosts have boarded aircraft and traveled...

Do a Google search and start reading.

Just sayin'...

Paslode 07-31-2014 16:46

Emory Healthcare to treat Ebola patient
 
Quote:

Emory University Hospital is expected to receive a patient infected with the deadly Ebola virus within the next several days, the university announced Thursday.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breakin...patient/ngrtm/

Why bring it home?

DJ Urbanovsky 07-31-2014 20:42

Seems, I don't know... Insane. Right?

I might be wrong about this, but I don't ever recall a case of it being knowingly allowed on aircraft, let alone one destined for the United States.

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Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 558474)


Paslode 07-31-2014 21:05

I am sure the US has much better medical and CDC facilities than else where in the world and this person or persons will get the best care possible....

But Ebola is nasty and there is no cure. I do not believe we have ever had a case in the US so why even risk it. All it would take is one individual to become infected then running around a city like NYC and we would have a f-ing mess that spreads to 50 states overnight.

tonyz 07-31-2014 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 558495)

But Ebola is nasty and there is no cure. I do not believe we have ever had a case in the US so why even risk it. All it would take is one individual to become infected then running around a city like NYC and we would have a f-ing mess that spreads to 50 states overnight.

Sort of describes that gem Ebola Pelosi.

Old Dog New Trick 07-31-2014 21:42

Back in the 90s when I was an 18D, I read "The Hot Zone" (Richard Preston) about Ebola and thought right there and then to not just walk away from medicine, but run!

The fact that this disease is going wild now is or should be seen as a testament that organizations like the CDC, WHO, and anyone else involved don't have a clue as to how to isolate it and prevent its worldwide infection in a global environment.

Recent revelations that the CDC lost control of live viruses and stored others in a non-secure research facility should tell you they may have the best of intentions but lack the fortitude to live up to their charter of protecting the public.

Whatever protocols are in place in Georgia and the route there from Africa, I hope that nothing goes wrong. I hope that they find a cure without infecting others and that they have the best controls to protect anyone and everyone that comes into contact with this person and those in the host county.

Ebola as a bioterrorism weapon is on the horizon so for their part a cure and vaccine is needed...Godspeed.


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