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Badger52 06-13-2013 05:52

SF in Tripoli "not told to stand down'
 
Quote:

Associated Press, Published: June 12

WASHINGTON — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said Wednesday that four members of Army special forces in Tripoli were never told to stand down after last year’s deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, disputing a former top diplomat’s claim that the unit might have helped Americans under siege.

Army Gen. Martin Dempsey said timing and the need for the unit to help with casualties from Benghazi resulted in orders for the special forces to remain in Tripoli. Four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, died in two separate attacks several hours apart on the night of Sept. 11.
Grrrrr.

Was in my Early Bird; here's the Washington Post link.

Edited to add: CJCS opening his mouth about much of anything these days is bad for the digestion. Another area where the trust-ship has sailed.

Pete 06-13-2013 06:41

Not told to stand down
 
So they wanted to go help - Were not told to stand down - but were just told to stay in place.

Maybe the difference splits too many hairs for me.

tonyz 06-13-2013 06:50

IMO, there far too many weasel-like responses from current "leadership" - no matter the scandal de jour - to inspire confidence in said "leadership."

<rant off>

Paslode 06-13-2013 07:07

Seems like every time I read about Dempsey he is pressing politically correctness or political expedience.....he comes off as a stooge. Makes me wonder what the NSA has on him...


The Benghazi story has changed more times than I can count, the only thing that hasn't changed is the fact the Administration tried to blame the cause and deaths on a trailer for an unknown movie called Innocence of Muslims by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

PedOncoDoc 06-13-2013 07:16

Why don't they have that team come in and testify on the subject?

If the administration did nothing wrong they have nothing to hide, right? :confused:

sinjefe 06-13-2013 07:18

Not told to stand down, just told to stay? Talk about quibbling. I guess helping with the dead was more important than trying make them not dead.:mad:

ddoering 06-13-2013 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinjefe (Post 511034)
Not told to stand down, just told to stay? Talk about quibbling. I guess helping with the dead was more important than trying make them not dead.:mad:

I guess the General is already looking towards his next job after retirement.

echoes 06-13-2013 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by PedOncoDoc (Post 511033)
Why don't they have that team come in and testify on the subject?

If the administration did nothing wrong they have nothing to hide, right? :confused:

Exactly...however, "They" are called Quiet Professionals for a reason.

And this administration is so cowardly, so f--ked up the ass, that they would never admit anything, but rather try and blame Our Best and Bravest! Rediculous.

No dice!:mad:

Holly

p.s....Am sure this is being logged and transferred to my account in Utah.

Badger52 06-13-2013 10:09

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Originally Posted by echoes (Post 511042)
p.s....Am sure this is being logged and transferred to my account in Utah.

Holly be sure & let us know when the SS and the IRS stop by (I'm not sure if they'll share rental vans.)

:mad:

UWOA (RIP) 06-13-2013 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinjefe (Post 511034)
Not told to stand down, just told to stay? Talk about quibbling. I guess helping with the dead was more important than trying make them not dead.:mad:

Just another chapter in "Self-Destruction". Too bad today we don't have another Cincinnatus to chronicle the failure of military leadership on the altar of self-promotion and career advancement. While "Self-Destruction" was an expose of the Vietnam conflict leadership, it seems we are repeating some of the same errors ... and writing new paradigms as well.

I'm beginning to think that academies like West Point (well known for the WPPA or West Point Protective Association) are an anachronism of a young democracy with limited intellectual havens for the repository of military knowledge. Now they inculcate a pseudo-culture of privilege and "best" practices that inspires cronyism and expediency. Perhaps we'd be better off relying on the other two (larger) legs of the officer procurement cycle -- ROTC and OCS. The result would be more truly representative of the excellence produced by this great country.

Today military professionals draw information and experience from a wide array of sources and institutions. I question the need for academies that self-promote and assure that their graduates receive primary consideration for the upper echelons of leadership. It is a Kentucky marriage that insures that the officer corps will rot from within.

And yes, I was ROTC until I was drafted during Vietnam and went to OCS.

End of rant.

Team Sergeant 06-13-2013 12:21

"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW"

Paragrouper 06-13-2013 17:59

Dempsey
 
such a frigging toady :mad:

Gypsy 06-13-2013 18:45

Tomato, tomahto. :rolleyes: More total BS from this administration.

Surgicalcric 06-13-2013 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 511032)
Gen Dempsey ...he comes off as a stooge.
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He is a stooge and I haven't met a warrior yet who wouldn't piss on him as he does us.

cbtengr 06-13-2013 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 511032)
.....he comes off as a stooge. Makes me wonder what the NSA has on him.

Nothing that these people (current administration and their toadies) tell us any more will ever be taken without wondering what the NSA has on them.


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