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BMT (RIP) 06-05-2013 03:49

Michelle Obama loses her cool:
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ranscript.html


BMT

Pete 06-05-2013 04:53

Why
 
"..........order federal contractors to stop discriminating against gays and lesbians in hiring.............."

I'm getting a little tired of rude folks interrupting any speaker in the name of free speech.

But with that said "Why is this even an issue?"

It's all in the counting - numbers - numbers - numbers - how many of what sub group got how many jobs.

Ret10Echo 06-05-2013 05:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 509661)
"..........order federal contractors to stop discriminating against gays and lesbians in hiring.............."



Rephrased

"...order federal contractors to discriminate against everyone else...."


I am more interested in how the "Administration of transparency and openess" edited the exchange out of the transcript. Classic


So what is the percentage of Tofalars present in the contractor workforce? I feel they are highly under-represented. There should be special consideration for Tofalars...and those with green eyes should take precedence over others....Is there somewhere I could spend a huge amount of money to disrupt an event to promote this unsubstantiated thought?

Destrier 06-05-2013 05:38

Wonder how she would have reacted if she had a shoe thrown at her.

Trapper John 06-05-2013 05:50

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Originally Posted by Destrier (Post 509663)
Wonder how she would have reacted if she had a shoe thrown at her.

If it were a Ferragamo: "Ooooo! Ferragamo! Do you have that in a size 10?" :D

SF_BHT 06-05-2013 05:52

I am still confused. We have laws that say you can not discriminate against anyone for what ever reason so why do we need a new order or law that only covers this small group.

Oh do not try to debate one of the LGBT could. They are hateful no matter what you say.

medic&commo 06-05-2013 06:03

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Originally Posted by SF_BHT (Post 509665)
I am still confused. We have laws that say you can not discriminate against anyone for what ever reason so why do we need a new order or law that only covers this small group.

Oh do not try to debate one of the LGBT could. They are hateful no matter what you say.

IMO, the same as have additional laws for hate crimes -
If you commit murder, isn't that still murder, regardless of the sexual orientation, race, age, religious affiliation - because we are all created equal?

m&c

JJ_BPK 06-05-2013 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete (Post 509661)

But with that said "Why is this even an issue?"


Because..

Quote:

"First Lady threatens to leave fundraiser after lesbian protester heckles her,,

and the White House deletes exchange from official transcript"
Print only the news that fits that agenda.. The NewsSpeak Police hove spoken... Anything else is ThoughtCrime.

:munchin

Scimitar 06-05-2013 08:15

Quote:

I am still confused. We have laws that say you can not discriminate against anyone for what ever reason so why do we need a new order or law that only covers this small group.

Oh do not try to debate one of the LGBT could. They are hateful no matter what you say.
I'm a pretty right wing kinda guy, but honestly I never really got involved with the gay rights issue before, until this....

I got to know this law lecturer, nice fella, seemed a mans man, one day I find out he's gay, whatever no big deal, being a church going kinda fella we give each other healthy schtick over our difference in opinion. I always liked how he was a straight up guy, (no pun intended) and not flaming in any way.

Turned out he was pretty involved with the gay lobby, so one day I ask him directly, "Hey IC, I heard that some gays want to make it illegal for me to sit my son down and tell him "Son, we live in a secular, pluralistic republic, and we respect the rights of those who disagree with us, we'll even fight for them, because the same secular pluralism that protects them, protects us, but we in no way accept the homosexual lifestyle as a choice that honors the God we worship, and it is never a valid choice in this family."

In short, his answer was, there's no way we can ever make that illegal Jack, but we can sure make it cost you.

The more I read up on this topic the more I'm realizing that in 10 years time, I will have to tell my son that this is what we believe and that he MUST keep it a secret, or daddy might loss his job, or miss out on a promotion, or little jack might not get the grades he deserves.

I'm an optimist, glass half full kinda fella, and I've looked at this every way I know how.....but frankly.....we're f***ed...

If anyone can show me different, please do, seriously...

S

Scimitar 06-05-2013 08:33

Duplicate

bandaidbrand 06-05-2013 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by medic&commo (Post 509668)
IMO, the same as have additional laws for hate crimes -
If you commit murder, isn't that still murder, regardless of the sexual orientation, race, age, religious affiliation - because we are all created equal?

m&c


There are different degrees of murder though, and while they generally deal with mens rea, they aren't all equal. I see what you mean about the issues of having a separate crime for it, but I think there's an argument for some of the penal code including sentencing guidelines based on the heinousness of the crime both in act and intent.

Dusty 06-05-2013 08:40

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Originally Posted by Scimitar (Post 509689)
I'm a pretty right wing kinda guy, but honestly I never really got involved with the gay rights issue before, until this....

I got to know this law lecturer, nice fella, seemed a mans man, one day I find out he's gay, whatever no big deal, being a church going kinda fella we give each other healthy schtick over our difference in opinion. I always liked how he was a straight up guy, (no pun intended) and not flaming in any way.

Turned out he was pretty involved with the gay lobby, so one day I ask him directly, "Hey IC, I heard that some gays want to make it illegal for me to sit my son down and tell him "Son, we live in a secular, pluralistic republic, and we respect the rights of those who disagree with us, we'll even fight for them, because the same secular pluralism that protects them, protects us, but we in no way accept the homosexual lifestyle as a choice that honors the God we worship, and it is never a valid choice in this family."

In short, his answer was, there's no way we can ever make that illegal Jack, but we can sure make it cost you.

The more I read up on this topic the more I'm realizing that in 10 years time, I will have to tell my son that this is what we believe and that he MUST keep it a secret, or daddy might loss his job, or miss out on a promotion, or little jack might not get the grades he deserves.

I'm an optimist, glass half full kinda fella, and I've looked at this every way I know how.....but frankly.....we're f***ed...

If anyone can show me different, please do, seriously...

S

Never capitulate.

Wait 'til after the '14 Congressional elections. With no IRS suppression of grassroots Conservative organizations, I think the Country will be surprised at the percentage of older and younger voters who have had enough of this strongarming.

No reason to worry, anyway. Act. If the liberaces get the House and Senate, it will be because of underhanded, chicane shenanigans, the same way they got the White House in '08 and '10.

Scimitar 06-05-2013 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusty (Post 509693)
Never capitulate.

Wait 'til after the '14 Congressional elections. With no IRS suppression of grassroots Conservative organizations, I think the Country will be surprised at the percentage of older and younger voters have had enough of this strongarming.

No reason to worry, anyway. Act. If the liberaces get the House and Senate, it will be because of underhanded, chicane shenanigans, the same way they got the White House in '08 and '10.

Thanks for the pragmatism Dusty...

S

MR2 06-05-2013 09:02

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Originally Posted by Brush Okie (Post 509679)
I wonder if Hillary and others that go out of political favor will be taken out of offical photo's and videos like Stalin did?

Only if Obama wins the 2016 election...


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